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Glider said:For what its worth my order would be
Equal First Spit 9 and 190
they were to close to call and it depended on the pilot and strategic position. If pushed, I would give it to the 190 for its versatility.
Close second P38. - I haven't seen any example of a P38 outfighting a Spitfire in a trial. Robin Olds was an exceptional pilot who could do things that most pilots couldn't. An exceptional pilot in any of the above planes would almost certainly beat an average pilot in any other.
Third 109F
It couldn't match the above three planes but was better than the P40. The Spit 5 was a good match for the 109F but the Spit 9 beat it.
Fourth P40
Sorry but I believe it to be well outclassed by the others unless at low level. It could take damage, but so could the 190 and P38. Its armament was better than the 109F, about the same as the Spit and worse than the P38 and 190.
Happy to be proved wrong in any of the above
MacArther said:Despiste all of this, the P-40 could absorb more damage and still dish more out than any of the mentioned fighters. It may not have been the most glamorus, but it got the job done, and it worked well as a fighter bomber/close support aircraft.
lesofprimus said:Try sending a P-40 to attack a box of B-17's, then we'll see which can absorb more punishment..
MacArther said:if it was as bad as you say, then why did America produce it even when its successors were in large enough numbers to take its place?
MacArther said:if it was as bad as you say, then why did America produce it even when its successors were in large enough numbers to take its place? My theory is that the P40 had proven itself as a tough machine, and only the increasing speed of arial combat forced it to be phased out.
MacArther said:Some one look up the XP-40Q, that is the model that I think would have given the P51 a run for its money.
P.S. If you could post the stats or pictures (cause I cant find any aside from kotfsc.com) that would be helpful and really nice.
MacArther said:Some one look up the XP-40Q, that is the model that I think would have given the P51 a run for its money.
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:I personally think it was outclassed by the Fw-190, Bf-109, Spitfire, P-38, P-51 and I htink most people will agree.