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Still, there is no way that a volcano with that much force exists...


Oh, are we forgetting the fact THAT THE BLOODY CANARIES ARE NEXT TO AFRICA???

I highly doubt that even if there was a huge wave, it would go in a 360° path, spreading up towards France, right to Africa, and in a left diagonal path to Florida and the Carribbean...

Actually in this instance, the Volcano on the Canary Island Chain is right on the water, and what will cause the Tsunami is the amount of earth, lava and debris that will fall into the Atlantic Ocean, causing a horrific Wave(s) that will wipe out alot more than just 200,000 people....

I will agree with you you on that, that I dont think waves would extend out 360 degrees and cause tsunamis that would wipe out every coastal region on every continent in the Atlantic. However I would not count out the fact that a Volcano does not exist that can put out that much force.

lesofprimus said:

Actually in this instance, the Volcano on the Canary Island Chain is right on the water, and what will cause the Tsunami is the amount of earth, lava and debris that will fall into the Atlantic Ocean, causing a horrific Wave(s) that will wipe out alot more than just 200,000 people....

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I agree, man are we so far of of topic though.

I say the lava/magma would have a negative effect on the waves, due to the fact that it would heat it and steam, slowing down a wave...

Yes but the initial shock from it and volcanos have been known to cause earth quakes.

Maybe the vibrations, but not the lava...



What I was saying is that the steam and heat wouldn't be too good for a wave to form...

Have u ever seen what happens when a piece of a glacier falls off into the water??? It creates a huge wave from the displacement of the water that the large chunks of ice form....

Multiply that force times 1000.. The land mass that will fall into the ocean from that volcano is larger than anything anyone has ever seen in recorded history.. I saw a program on the Discovery Channel concerning this.....

The wall of water expected to reach the USA eastern coast is said to be in the 100 foot range, traveling at the speed of sound....

Bullcrap...

I have seen National Geographic shows too on the subject and they have said a volcano or earthquake stong eneogh could create tidal waves as high as 200 ft and traveling at speeds of 600mph. Naturally they will slow down over distance but it is completly possible.

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

I have seen National Geographic shows too on the subject and they have said a volcano or earthquake Strong enough could create tidal waves as high as 200 ft and traveling at speeds of 600mph. Naturally they will slow down over distance but it is completely possible.

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True, and if the wave doesn't get you, the gasses thrown up by a super eruption could cause a nuclear winter effect and you could either starve or freeze to death.
Mother Nature can be such a party pooper at times

Ummm... it is going to happen. It is only a question of when, not if.

http://www.rense.com/general13/tidal.htm

You can search on "Canary Islands Tsunami" and find numerous information about this future event. It has happened before, there are 100 ton flung up from the ocean sitting on isles in the Bahamas to prove it. The very shape of those Islands, which are like arrows pointing East, was made by the last such wave.

A similar wave was generated when one of the Hawain Islands experianced a similar though larger event a few hundred thousand years back, which is the primary explanation for its very odd flora and fauna, most species were wiped out completely.

If you live on the East coast, you should be paying attention for any signs of activity of the Cumbre Vieja Volcano on the Island of La Palma in the Canary Islands. If so, pack up the family and your valuables and head West!

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Never!!! I was born an east coaster, and I'll die...Awww, who am I kidding?! I'm outta here!

As I said Mother Nature is very unforgiving. It is as if she is trying out her own population control or just damn tired of us screwing up her environment.

U happy and convinced now GrG???

No.



I honestly can't see that happening.



If it happened before, why are the Caribbean Islands and Florida, not to mention all those other states and Africa still there?


Sure, you could say those dents along Africa's seaboard were caused by a past tsunami, but I truly doubt that a wave could reform a continent in a single blow.


Like I said, NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

I have seen National Geographic shows too on the subject and they have said a volcano or earthquake stong eneogh could create tidal waves as high as 200 ft and traveling at speeds of 600mph. Naturally they will slow down over distance but it is completly possible.

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Actually, the intial wave if the west slope of La Palma were to slide into the ocean would be about 650 meters in height. It would taper off to about 30-50 meters by the time it reached mid ocean, then it would rise up to over 100 meters as it came onshore on the coast of Florida.

It's pretty damn amazing. Fortunately, such events only happen once every few thousand years.

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GermansRGeniuses said:

No.



I honestly can't see that happening.



If it happened before, why are the Caribbean Islands and Florida, not to mention all those other states and Africa still there?


Sure, you could say those dents along Africa's seaboard were caused by a past tsunami, but I truly doubt that a wave could reform a continent in a single blow.


Like I said, NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

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Umm, don't you think the better question to ask is what explains the odd shape of that region? How else do you explain the presence of boulders weighing thousands of tons which are obviously from the ocean floor (this is easily determined) sitting atop various atolls of the Bahamas? You don't seriously think that such a wave would completely wash away major land masses do you?

Wake up m8. It is going to happen. Each time the volano(s) on La Palma errupt there is an increasing chance the west slope will give way. There is a major erruption every 150-200 years, but it's unpredictable. The last such erruption was back in about 1950 if I recall correctly. So another erruption could occur at any time, but probably won't happen till near the end of the century or maybe early into the next.

I'm not saying you should run for the hills, just pointing out that these kind of things are certainly possible. If you live on the E. Coast of the USA or Florida or the Bahamas, it would be prudent to get out of there if you hear that a Canary Island volcano has started to errupt. That's about the extent of it.

There are several such volcanic islands that are threatening to collapse, the one on La Palma just happens to be the one most likely to do so next. There are also similar structures under the ocean, which are generally not mapped, which could give way at any time, but unless it is truely huge these would generate smaller, though still catastrophic, tsunamis.

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redcoat said:

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

I have seen National Geographic shows too on the subject and they have said a volcano or earthquake Strong enough could create tidal waves as high as 200 ft and traveling at speeds of 600mph. Naturally they will slow down over distance but it is completely possible.

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True, and if the wave doesn't get you, the gasses thrown up by a super eruption could cause a nuclear winter effect and you could either starve or freeze to death.
Mother Nature can be such a party pooper at times

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And how would nuclear winter come about?


What gases are in a volcano that have radioactive tendencies?

RG_Lunatic said:

GermansRGeniuses said:

No.



I honestly can't see that happening.



If it happened before, why are the Caribbean Islands and Florida, not to mention all those other states and Africa still there?


Sure, you could say those dents along Africa's seaboard were caused by a past tsunami, but I truly doubt that a wave could reform a continent in a single blow.


Like I said, NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

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Umm, don't you think the better question to ask is what explains the odd shape of that region? How else do you explain the presence of boulders weighing thousands of tons which are obviously from the ocean floor (this is easily determined) sitting atop various atolls of the Bahamas? You don't seriously think that such a wave would completely wash away major land masses do you?

Wake up m8. It is going to happen. Each time the volano(s) on La Palma errupt there is an increasing chance the west slope will give way. There is a major erruption every 150-200 years, but it's unpredictable. The last such erruption was back in about 1950 if I recall correctly. So another erruption could occur at any time, but probably won't happen till near the end of the century or maybe early into the next.

I'm not saying you should run for the hills, just pointing out that these kind of things are certainly possible. If you live on the E. Coast of the USA or Florida or the Bahamas, it would be prudent to get out of there if you hear that a Canary Island volcano has started to errupt. That's about the extent of it.

There are several such volcanic islands that are threatening to collapse, the one on La Palma just happens to be the one most likely to do so next. There are also similar structures under the ocean, which are generally not mapped, which could give way at any time, but unless it is truely huge these would generate smaller, though still catastrophic, tsunamis.

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I know major eruptions are fairly common in the larger scheme of things (the 150-200 years, like you said), but why would this one be so different?

I have an idea that won't materialize due to the fact that no one would listen and that it's almost a sure improbability, even if someone did...


We should make a concrete wall all around the island and drain it (for the tunnellers, or else leave it full for submarines), similar to a building tower foundation or "anchor" for oil rig posts (the 60-something feet tall concrete thingos at the ocean floor, where the metal towers that lead to the platform connect; they're like feet, but I don't know the technical name)...


After this, we convert some submarines into automated drilling machines, (perhaps even taking out fuel tanks, leaving only engines, drilling bit and motor, and ballast compartments, among other simples - connect it with a fuel line, like an astronaut is connected to a shuttle through the oxygen tube - note that with a nuclear sub, this would not be required, but the chance of an explosion is too large for this type of work) or use those tunnel drillers to make a large hole in the side, causing the magma to jet out, being stopped partially or completely (depending on thickness of wall and power of volcano), creating a foundation that could be drained out and filled to make an artificial island to relocate the islanders.


Sure, there isn't the natural of the island, but then again, there wouldn't be after a natural eruption, now would there be?





Impossible?

Perhaps!

Is the volcano more likely to erupt than for this insanity to materialize, rendering me wrong as well as speechless?

Undoobitably!




Ahh, my insanity is back and I love it!




Sure, the hole being drilled might cause the island to implode, but the machines would be automatons, and the island (and African coast, at least for a mile; just temporarily move the cities inland in case the wall doesn't help) would be evacuated!
*EDIT*~And there would be as little workers as humanly possible, don't want ANY crowding...


I dare anyone to try to dream anything so insane!



Man, I'm gonna be a great aircraft engineer/designer with ideas so impossibly crazy, so long as I have the means to make them a reality...