Best Fighter

bronzewhaler82 · Mar 31, 2004

Hardly the best fighter of WW2 was it?

wow...thats one hell of a lengthy source... 8)

cheddar cheese · Mar 31, 2004

no we did mean the he-52 8)

bronzewhaler82 · Apr 1, 2004

Well the He-52 was just a biplane high-altitude prototype...although it was just a big wind-up, nothing ever came of the He-52 (not that it would have been much of a threat if it had )

cheddar cheese · Apr 2, 2004

we knew it wasnt much cop, thats why we put it!

the lancaster kicks ass · Apr 3, 2004

i take it they figured us out then?

(it was like SO C.C.)

cheddar cheese · Apr 3, 2004

it was martyns idea actually 8)

the lancaster kicks ass · Apr 3, 2004

yup, all him..........................

and the best fighter was the hurricane.....................

cheddar cheese · Apr 4, 2004

sure was 8)

kiwimac · Apr 4, 2004

I should have guessed!

Kiwimac

the lancaster kicks ass · Apr 4, 2004

guessed what, that the hurricane was better?

ahanswurst · Apr 4, 2004

Of all the fighters that I have looked up the specifications to the P-47D model stands out. It would go 433 mph and fly up to 42,000 feet. The P-51 Mustang would do 437 mph and up to 41,900. So it looks like a tie between the P-47D and the P-51 as being the best of WW2.

kiwimac · Apr 5, 2004

Hmm,

Specification Table for the Focke-Wulf Ta 152H-1

Type High-altitude fighter

Crew One

Powerplant Junkers Jumo 213E-1 12-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine rated at 1,750hp at take-off ( 2,050hp with MW 50 ) and 1,320hp at 32,800ft. ( 1,740hp with GM 1 )

Armaments One 30mm, engine-mounted MK 108 cannon with 90 rounds of ammo, two 20mm, wing-mounted MG 151 cannon with 175 rounds per gun

Speed: Maximum speed 332mph at sea level ( 350mph with MW 50 ), 465mph at 29,530ft. ( with MW 50 ), 472mph at 41,010ft. ( with GM 1 ), 311mph cruising speed at 22,965ft.

Range 755 miles to 1,250 miles depending on speed and external tankage

Climb 3,445ft. per minute with MW 50 injection

Ceiling 48,550ft. with GM 1 injection

Dimensions:

Span 47ft. 4 1/2in.
Length 35ft. 1 2/3in.
Height 11ft. 1/4in.

Wing Area 250.8 sq. ft.
Weights:

Empty 8,642lbs.
Loaded 11,502lbs.
Deployed? Yes

http://members.aol.com/pelzig/ta152.htm

So it would fly higher and faster than either the P 51 and P 47.

Kiwimac

cheddar cheese · Apr 5, 2004

yup, the ta-152 was a figther and a half 8)

corpcasselbury · Apr 5, 2004

My pick remains the Chance-Vought F4U Corsair. I'd match one of them against any other piston engined fighter. In fact, during the Korean War, a Corsair pilot actually shot down a MiG-15! 8)

kiwimac · Apr 5, 2004

cheddar cheese said:
yup, the ta-152 was a figther and a half 8)

It surely was. When the Ta 152 was being flight-tested, Kurt Tank was flying an unarmed version. He was bounced by a couple of p51-Ds. Rather than being shot down in flames, he simply pushed the throttle through the bar and out-raced them!

Now thats what I call a plane!

Sourcehttp://fw190.hobbyvista.com/Dan1.htm

Sourcehttp://mitglied.lycos.de/spezialserien/hpbimg/Focke Wulf Ta 152.JPG

Kiwimac

ahanswurst · Apr 5, 2004

I agree with the Focke Wulf TA 152h-1 as being a high performance fighter with about 150 were produced which started in January of 1945. Their main use was to protect the landing strips that the Me-262's used as they were landing and taking off. I wonder is any planes survived the war or were they melted down. they would have made a fast air racer at 595 miles per hour at 41,000 feet
I am surprised at the lack of P-38 lightening posts. The P-38 with a trained pilot would fly circles around most fighters of the day. Richard Bong was proof of this. He shot down over 40 Japanese aircraft with little damage to his aircraft. Granted Tommy Maguire was as good as Bong but politics helped Bong. Now if Bong and Maguire had flown the number of missions the German fighter pilots and the Russian lady Pilots did during their tours . Who can guess the number of aircraft each would have shot down.

cheddar cheese · Apr 6, 2004

It surely was. When the Ta 152 was being flight-tested, Kurt Tank was flying an unarmed version. He was bounced by a couple of p51-Ds. Rather than being shot down in flames, he simply pushed the throttle through the bar and out-raced them!

Bloody hell!

agree with the Focke Wulf TA 152h-1 as being a high performance fighter with about 150 were produced which started in January of 1945

just to be picky, 220 were made

bronzewhaler82 · Apr 6, 2004

Is it my imagination or does the Ta-152 just look like an FW190 thats been streched? 8)

cheddar cheese · Apr 6, 2004

it does a bit probably for the aerodynamics 8)

bronzewhaler82 · Apr 8, 2004

I think the Ta-152 was a very close cousin of the FW 190..in outward design anyway (I could be hideously wrong as i don't know much about German aircraft )

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