Best naval fighter

[cheddar cheese]

the shiden came to late though

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i'm just saying, if the zero had both, or if the shiden was in service at the start of the war, the americans wouldn't stand a chance..............

 

[Lightning Guy]

It saw service during the war. But even if you want to negate the Shiden, you've still got to deal with the Hellcat, Corsair, and Seafire.

 

[cheddar cheese]

im sure the shiden would have been a challenge to american planes had it been in service earlier, but as it wasnt we cant be too sure.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

But even if you want to negate the Shiden, you've still got to deal with the Hellcat, Corsair, and Seafire.

believe me, the shiden was better than all of them.................

 

[Lightning Guy]

The Shiden would have been a match for the Hellcat or the marks of the Seafire that saw service during the war, but it wouldn't have been able to handle a -4 Corsair.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

belive me, it could out turn and gun down a corsair............

 

[Lightning Guy]

Can't out run it. Can't out dive-it. Can't out climb it. So the Corsair can disengage at will. The Shiden lost all power at altitude so the Corsair is clearly superior there. And by the time the Shiden was in service the American pilots had learned to use speed, diving, and climbing rather than trying to turn with Japanese fighters.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

but 4 hits from them 30mm cannon would take it out..........

 

[Lightning Guy]

To the best of my knowledge, the Shiden never carried 30mm cannons. I know it carried 4 20mm guns. And you still have the problem of being able to bring those guns to bear. The smart pilot in the Corsair can use his plane to determine when and where combat will occur and that is a HUGE advantage.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

not if he's a novise caought by supprise.........

 

[Lightning Guy]

In which case the pilot is better, not the plane.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

but but it makes the plane look good 8)

 

[Lightning Guy]

Maybe, but no way to argue for one plane being better than another.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

ok, we'll just say this, the shiden had better range, manouverability and looks, now you list where the corsair was better............

 

[Lightning Guy]

the Corsair, especially the -4, was faster, better climb, better dive, better fighter bomber, and better at just about everything once you got above 20,000ft or so.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

the shiden could beat the corsair in a shallow climb.................

 

[cheddar cheese]

but overall, the corsair was better 8)

 

[plan_D]

I do like the Corsair, but the Shiden was better.

 

[cheddar cheese]

on paper, yes it probably was 8)