Best WW2 Weapon...

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  1. DerAdlerIstGelandet

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    This is a restart of a thread that Lucky13 started...
     
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    Which were best in their respective field?
     
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    Can we just delete the poll part of this Adler and keep it simple as to which was the best Rifle, Sub Machine Gun, Machine Gun etc. etc?
    I willingly admit that I took it a tiny bit too far with too many choices in the poll which made too complicated....
     
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    You're the MAN Adler! Cheers! :salute:
     
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    Anything German. :lol:
     
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    Well lets see, just my opinions on the subject.

    Pistol - Colt M1911 .45
    Rifle - Mauser K98/M1 Gerand
    Assault Rifle - Sturmgewehr 44 (StG44)
    Machine Gun - MG42
     
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    Sub Machine Gun, lots of options. Like the PPSh but the MP40 and Thompson are definite options. Still, the PPSh with the large drup (72 rounds?) is pretty nasty up close and personal.
     
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    Agree with ya' on everything but the K98. Think the Lee-Enfield Mk 4 was a better rifle. Bigger Magazine, nothing lost in smoothness of action by comparison (maybe even gained, but that is an opinion). But the Garand was a better standard service rifle than either of them.

    Can't beat the Colt 1911, same with the MG42 (critic on it being wasteful on ammunition- 20 rds a second is very high) but in ease of use and simplicity, there was none better.

    Might add the Bren Gun. Very good light machine gun. Better than the BAR (IMHO).

    Sturmgewhr44 is a winner in that catagory simply because there is nobody else in it. Revolutionary design. Not sure about the operational history.
     
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    I enjoy the K98. I own a few of them and they allways were a joy to shoot. They are very accurate and would also make a decent sniper rifle.
     
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    Sub-machine gun -- Thompson .45

    At close sub-machine gun ranges, it hits hard and makes big holes.
     
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    Very true, the basis for a lot of hunting rifles out there.

    Now if the question was "Which standard military rifle would make the best sniper rifle in WW2", I'd give it the K98 or it's american knockoff, the Springfield '03. Only odd duck would be the Lee Enfield 4 which had some odd harmonics or something that made it very accurate at super long ranges. But don't quote me on that 'cause it sounds like a sea story (even when I heard it).
     
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    Never heard of that one timshatz. Are you thinking about the jungle carbine No.7? That one was notorious for a wandering zero and a vicious kick.
     
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    Some people state that the Finnish M28 and KP31 is the best ever sniper rifle....

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    Simo Häyhä, the highest scoring sniper in history with accounted
    542 kills. Will probably be unmatched as long as we live atleast.

    Simo Hayha W.W. II Finland 542
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    Aliya Moldagulova (F) W.W. II U.S.S.R. 91
    Nina Lobkovskaya (F) W.W. II U.S.S.R. 89
    Lidiya Gudovantseva (F) W.W. II U.S.S.R. 76
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    Actually, I might be thinking of the SMLE of WW1 fame. Do not know much about the Jungle Mark 7. Looks pretty cool, with the flash supressor.

    Have fired the Carbine Moison Nagant. Not a bad little rifle, for the size. Accurate and also with a good kick.
     
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    Pistol: Colt .45
    Sub MG: Owen gun
    Rifle: M1 Garand
    LMG: Bren
    MG: Mg42
    AT weapon: ?
     
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    Panzerfaust...
     
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    It could only be used once though. Ill go with the Panzershreck.
     
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    I was just making an example.
     
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    Both were deadly. First really effective , mass produced, shaped charge weapons.
     
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    What about the Piat and Bazooka?
     
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