Bf109 with invasion stripes??

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  1. markg

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    hi
    I was on my golf course today (Nr Cambridge) and saw a warbird fly over me. It had invasion stripes, but it looked and sounded like a Bf109 ? Is there such a bird? Maybe resides at Duxford?
     
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    I would not believe that anybody would waste paint to create such a 'vision' on a 109
     
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    Unlikely. You may have seen/heard a Griffon-engined Spit.
     
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    Or a P51 Mustang? The only airworthy '109s in the UK at present are Spanish-built Hispano Buchons, which have a Rolls Royce Merlin engine, a sound very different to the original Daimler Benz engine. It's possible that you saw a P51B, with the 'razorback', which can be mistaken for a Bf109, and one of these is based at Duxford.
     
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    I'll do some finding out. I think the yellow cowling must have put the idea of a Bf109 into my mind. I'm pretty certain it didn't have the wings of a Spitfire, but I can't be certain. Airframes, I think you could have a point with the Buchon. I'll have to find out coz this has got me curious.
     
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    Possibly it was the "Horseman" P-51 ?? I'll go with that I think.
     
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    This yellow-nosed P51D is based at Duxford, where the pic was taken.
     

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    And I think the mystery is solved...
     
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    Yep... I agree.
     
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    How can anyone confuse the sound of a Merlin and DB engine?;)
     
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    I suppose if you've never heard either, on a regular basis? Both obviously sound distinctly different to the average 'tin trike', so a layman might have problems. The P-51 also sounds slightly different to the Spit I suppose.
     
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    Was it this you saw? :)

    [​IMG]

    Most likely not; these Buchons were modified for the making of the film Patton...
     
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    Agree there.
    Once read that P-51 pilots were ordered to waggle their wings when approaching US bomber streams from behind, due to their close resemblence to 109s. On atleast one occasion, an escorting Mustang was shot down by a B-24 tail gunner after having neglected to do so.
     
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    That's what I was thinking too, is an earlier model Mustang, which can look similiar to a 109...

    There's many accounts where Axis pilots mistook inbound B models as thier own, only to realize a little too late they weren't friendlies...
     
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    Relatively few people have heard a Daimler Benz aero engine flying,certainly compared to a Merlin,Allison or Griffon.
    I have and even so can easily imagine someone being confused.
    Steve
     
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    actually read an account this weekend where it was claimed there was a 109 painted OD with invasion stripes....of course it didnt fly over you recently. but thought it was funny. i will bring the article in tomorrow and quote it...
     
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    i have a book called fighter boys and there a few combat reports in where RAF Mustang pilots claim to have fought 109's with roundels, invasion stripes and the round wingtips painted in dark colours to make them appear square !

    i'll dig it out and quote them properly later
     
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    Look forward to that info Karl...
     
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    #20 stona, Nov 28, 2012
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    It might not have flown over your house but such a thing did exist.

    [​IMG]

    A Bf 109 G-14,one of two captured by the British at the end of the war in,I think without checking,the Netherlands.
    I even made a model of this one based on the 21st Century kit to give my impression of what it may have looked like in glorious technicolour.

    [​IMG]

    Notice that they are not exactly the distinctive markings (invasion stripes) for Overlord but black and white stripes nonetheless.

    Cheers
    Steve
     
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