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Of course, it could be argued that the Wrights' Flyer was in fact a workshop result of the heated Farman-Voisin-Weber etc. conversations in high-end Parisian salons of the very early 1900's, duly noted out and sent away by Octave Chanute, another Parisian great American, duly on the spot and actualy debating here too, away to its 'mechanical arm' over there in Yankee eastern dunes.