Can anyone ID this Weird Bird?

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  1. Capt. Vick

    Capt. Vick Well-Known Member

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    This is a picture that is hanging in the Cradle of Aviation Museum that shows Roosevelt Field in the early part of last century. Can anyone ID the plane I circled in Red? Very curious looking. Oh, and another odd duck I circled in blue off to the right. Must be one of Mr Burnelli's early "Flying Fuselage" transports. Cool huh?
     
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    #2 GregP, Aug 13, 2015
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    It LOOKS like an early A. V. Roe Vulcan flying wing, but could be anything ...

    VulcanVeryEarlyDesign.jpg

    The other one is so fuzzy it may take forever to identify. When I blow it up, it is all digital jaggies with square corners. It looks for all the world like a Bell YP-59A but is about 30 years, give or take a bit, too soon for that ... it will be fun trying to figure it out.

    NONE of them are "easy" due to resolution.

    A VERY interesting find!
     
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    #3 GregP, Aug 13, 2015
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    Duplicate post ... for some reason ...
     
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    I will have to get a close-up next time.
     
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    maybe a Waterman Aerobile

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    The cars you can see in the picture dates it somewhere in the early to mid 30s, definitely not the 20s.
     
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    One of the Westland-Hill Pterodactyl versions?
     
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    Ah, Waterman Arrowplane might be it:

    watermanx13.jpg
     
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    Agree with Greyman.

    The one in blue is simply too far away.
     
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    That monoplane in the foreground - left (NC14719) is a Fairchild 24C-8C (1934 vintage) so that gives us a good idea of the age of the photo.

    That goofy aircraft is most likely Waterman's W-4 Arrowplane NS13, built in 1936, flown in 1937.

    He built several types, but the black "rudders" and shape of the vertical stabilizers on the one pictured identifies with NS13.
     
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    Knew I could count on you guys. Thanks.
     
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    Went back and "clicked" this, the odd duck I circled in blue off to the right in my original post. I still content it must be one of Mr Burnelli's early "Flying Fuselage" transports.
     
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    Sure looks like it Jim
     
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    Oh man, do they STILL have it outside? How old is that picture?
     
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