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• Nov 18, 2005

• #121

Parmigiano

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Yes CC, design is actually 'retro', but is more than that: the back is a hommage to the 1936 Lancia 'Aprilia', an all-time masterpiece and one of the most innovative cars ever built. Just one example: the Cx (drag coefficent) of the standard sedan was 0,47!

Unfortunately the Ypsilon is just a good car, time for masterpieces is over in the automotive industry. (if we exclude things that only the Sultan of Borneo can afford)

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• Nov 18, 2005

• #122

Parmigiano

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Aug 2, 2005

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.. btw, for me masterpieces are (for instance)

BMC Mini
Citroen Traction Avant
Ford T
Lancia Lambda
VW Kafer
Citroen 2CV
....

.. it is too easy to make a great car if you are Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Horch and have no budget constraints...

 

• Nov 18, 2005

• #123

cheddar cheese

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Jan 9, 2004

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I agree with that...The Mini is a terrific car and will most likely be my first car...

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #124

the lancaster kicks ass

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Dec 20, 2003

mine'll be a land rover hopefully

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #125

Parmigiano

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Aug 2, 2005

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.. another masterpiece (the Land) in my personal rank..
and I would add the Citroen ID/DS and the Mercedes SSK and SL300 gullwing

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #126

cheddar cheese

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Jan 9, 2004

WSM, England

The DS was, probably, the greatest car ever.

My folks are trying to buy a new car right now and theyre really annoying me. We live in a muddy area with rough roads and have to cross a Ford to get to the house. Their criteria are good Ground Clearance, reliability, powerful engine, spacious and cost less than £7000. I suggested a Subaru Legacy, which meets all the Criteria, but my dad is looking at stuff like Mondeos and Renaults and Peugeots, because those dealers are nearer to us by about 15 mins and hes heard opinions from like 1 or 2 people saying their good, when national surveys show otherwise. The Legacy estatate or even a BMW 3-series fit the bill great but he's gonna end up buying something shitty and unreliable cos he's so stubborn. GRRRRRR

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #127

the lancaster kicks ass

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Dec 20, 2003

land rovers fit them criteria

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #128

cheddar cheese

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Jan 9, 2004

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Going up hills comfortably and quietly at 80mph with lots of power in reserve? I think not...I havent even been 80 in a Landy...

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #129

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Dec 20, 2003

that wasn't in the criteria, and go on, how many sheep can you fit in the back of a normal car

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #130

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Jan 9, 2004

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I reckon "ewe" (Ha!) could probably get 2 in a Legacy estate, or, as les put it a while back, a darn sight more if I cut them up properly...

 

• Nov 19, 2005

• #131

the lancaster kicks ass

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Dec 20, 2003

and still have room for someone to.......hold.........them............

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #132

Parmigiano

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Aug 2, 2005

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wow, a Subaru for 7000 pounds? good prices in UK...

I personally hate SUV's, but in your case of muddy and cracked roads why not consider a Toyota RAV4? This japs have an impressive record of reliability.

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #133

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Dec 20, 2003

god i hate SUVs too, don't get farmers started talking about them and the inner city pussies that drive round in them trying to be all high and mighty, i'm after a land rover, a proper vehicle.........

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #134

Parmigiano

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Aug 2, 2005

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Yeah, Land (and Jeep) are meaningful off-road cars, I can't bear all those waste of money and technology like X5, M-Class, Cayenne..
All stuff that to hold the road needs competiton tires and the electronics of an F-16...

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #135

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Jan 9, 2004

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Cayenne's are incredible off road...theyre built like a brick shit house too...The think is we dont want a SUV cos they aint fast enough. Looked at Nissan Primera's today and they seem like what we may plump for, either that or a 3-series BMW.

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #136

the lancaster kicks ass

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Dec 20, 2003

so your folks are paying for this yeah, and they're willing to go up to 7 grand?

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #137

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Jan 9, 2004

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8 grand with PX for our current car...

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #138

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Dec 20, 2003

can't you just have the money

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #139

cheddar cheese

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Jan 9, 2004

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If I had 8 grand id end up with the best freakin Mini you ever saw 8)

 

• Nov 20, 2005

• #140

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Dec 20, 2003

if i had 8 grand to spend i'd buy a cheap second hand land rover, a cheap tractor just for fun and blow the other £7,950 on a load of other stuff