China Rocket to Make Uncontrolled Re-Entry

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Never post before your cuppa children! 😉😆😂

I'm sure that our most admired ringleaders will correct the boo boo....and put them in the right thread! 😁
And we have a winner in the oops I posted in the wrong thread contest.

Why move them they are funnier here, though I've copied them to the right thread…
 
Predicted re-entry is some where close to midnight my time. I plan to be outside waiting to see if it re-enters where I can see it. Since virtually everything made in China is crap, why should their rocket be any different? Once they finish their space station, when they use it will it pop like a Chinese inner tube?
 
Expected re-entry time on ABC World News. I'm going to keep checking that web site since it won't be actually known until a couple of hours beforehand.
 
Predicted re-entry is some where close to midnight my time. I plan to be outside waiting to see if it re-enters where I can see it. Since virtually everything made in China is crap, why should their rocket be any different? Once they finish their space station, when they use it will it pop like a Chinese inner tube?
The stuff they push on us is garbage because they know we'll buy it - their native material will be a higher quality.

And their rocket falling where-ever on the planet is something they could care less about. People will complain and shake their fingers and the PRC will shrug their shoulders and go on about doing their thing without a second thought.
 
天舟 Tianzhou 2 cargo resupply spacecraft in May 2021 (Rocket Long March 7)
神舟 Shenzhou 12, carrying a crew of three to the station in June 2021 (Rocket Long March 2F)
天舟 Tianzhou 3 in September 2021
神舟 Shenzhou 13 in October 2021
 
So glad to know that's what you think. As it happens, living in Houston and having friends in Clear Lake where NASA is, I get to talk to people who actually do orbital mechanics, as it's called, for a living. They think you're wrong. I'm more inclined to think they're right than you, although you're certainly entitled to your apparently heart felt opinion. They think the Chinese are fully capable of doing this, but just don't care and won't spend the monwy. You know, ruthless. Like in Hong Kong. Why are you making excuses for a muderous, even genocidal, totalitarian dictatorship?
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I had noticed earlier posts, but I didn't want to raise the issue because I didn't want the thread shut down. I have no animosity towards Chinese people -- I just wish they'd had a bit more responsibility when launching rockets into space. It's nice to learn from other's mistakes (we made our share too)
 
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I had noticed earlier posts, but I didn't want to raise the issue because I didn't want the thread shut down. I have no animosity towards Chinese people -- I just wish they'd had a bit more responsibility when launching rockets into space. It's nice to learn from other's mistakes (we made our share too)
Well spoken - political discussions can be done on Facebook, not here.
 
In 1995 and 1996 PRC space boosters carrying US built commercial satellites impacted in populated areas and casualties resulted. The worst one was on 14 Feb 1996, in which the rocket lost attitude reference at liftoff and could not be destroyed - the Chinese had installed a destruct cut-out period to prevent it from falling on valuable facilities - and devastated a village near the launch base.

Skylab was not supposed to re-enter. But NASA forgot that the Earth's atmosphere expands outward during heavy sunspot periods. A plan was formulated to dock a rocket stage with it and boost it higher but that could not be done in time.
 
And when a space X rocket explodes on take off that is also part of the calculations? The earth rotates such that on the equator you are doing approximately 1000MPH when standing still. Put that with the speed of the decaying orbit of a satellite and I think the idea of control is a nice fantasy.

Two different things! what has a SpaceX rocket exploding got to do with controlling one on landing?

Look, you can say what you like, doesn't change things. They have the technology today to guide rocket pieces to enter the atmosphere and burn up within a given area, they've been able to do it for a while now. Do you know what this is?

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How do you think a space launched vehicle gets to find a point on earth with reasonable accuracy?
 
Two different things! what has a SpaceX rocket exploding got to do with controlling one on landing?

Look, you can say what you like, doesn't change things. They have the technology today to guide rocket pieces to enter the atmosphere and burn up within a given area, they've been able to do it for a while now. Do you know what this is?

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How do you think a space launched vehicle gets to find a point on earth with reasonable accuracy?
It is just modern anti China politics that I dont want to get involved in. It is only 22 years ago that a probe to Mars was lost because various teams within the project used different units. A generation ago I was involved in the same nationalistic arguments in my job. There were continuous complaints that "foreign" meaning Japanese companies were "dumping" low quality pipes on the USA market. The fact is that if the USA wants to build a sub sea oil or gas transmission pipeline no USA manufacturer can meet the quality standards only the Japanese and Germans can and I have worked at the factories that do it. I have personal experience of this, on a purchase order I coordinated, placed to US Steel, the tally lost was provided by the forwarding (rail shipment) company, who got some people to walk up the rail wagons writing down the numbers of pipe, length weight, and heat number to make a list. This is behind any QA/QC system used by any aircraft or aero engine manufacturer in WW2. The pipe manufacturer themselves could not provide any record of pipe number to heat number or final length and weight, that says they do not operate any QA/QC system at all, but still demand protection from low quality imports.
 
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