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Good video. Based on of what all the people I know who have gotten a vaccine have said about the side effects they have experienced, I still hope I get the Pfizer or Moderns one on Monday.
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Good video. Based on of what all the people I know who have gotten a vaccine have said about the side effects they have experienced, I still hope I get the Pfizer or Moderns one on Monday.
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Yes ideed, I still cannot understand why the world has scattered their resources on all these different vaccines and didn't focus the whole effort on these two.
 
Marcel said:
Yes ideed, I still cannot understand why the world has scattered their resources on all these different vaccines and didn't focus the whole effort on these two.
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Because it was not clear which vaccines would work and which would not. What if one of those in which we had concentrated resources had been the French Sanofi vaccine?

It is remarkable that there are half a dozen (and counting) vaccines already approved in various parts of the world, all of which will 100% prevent you ending up in hospital or in a morgue. That all the vaccines are effective at preventing infection and lowering that crucial R number is also remarkable. When the research began the best that was hoped for from any vaccine was 50% efficacy, and they all exceed that.

Oxford University was always going to run with what has become the AstraZeneca vaccine, because it was already a work in progress from the last epidemic caused by a coronavirus. Given that it is being produced on an 'at cost' basis why should it have been stopped? I'm sure some of the pharmaceutical companies wishing to maximise profits once we pass the pandemic phase (explicitly Pfizer) would have liked that. People in the developing world? Not so much.
 
Got my first Moderna shot on the 6th and my second will be within four months. They are doing the whole town all at once due to the small size, 4000ish. Once they run out of vaccine next week they revert back to age limit vaccinations
 
fubar57 said:
Got my first Moderna shot on the 6th and my second will be within four months. They are doing the whole town all at once due to the small size, 4000ish. Once they run out of vaccine next week they revert back to age limit vaccinations
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Aren't you supposed to get the 2nd shot after 21 days?
 
The UK was pilloried for extending the interval between doses to 12 weeks. This was because some politicians (not qualified people) were insisting on keeping the two/three week intervals, and consequently stockpiling second doses. The UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) and Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) have been much better than many others at looking at real world data in real time, reacting to it, and not slavishly sticking to intervals which were only used as a convenience to speed up the trials.
The result has been more vaccines in arms. Those stockpiled second doses in many European countries? They should have gone into people's arms.

The UK approach has been vindicated because it was based on data indicating that a 12 week gap was actually beneficial and increased the final efficacy of both the vaccines then being used (AstraZeneca and Pfizer). Allegations promoted in some quarters that the MHRA or JCVI have somehow been gung-ho in their approach to vaccines, particularly AstraZeneca, out of some jingoistic or nationalistic motivation should be treated with the contempt they deserve.

I saw a while ago that Canada's National Advisory Committee on Immunization, which I assume to be the equivalent of our JCVI, had increased the interval between doses to 16 weeks. This may have been done as an expedient, prioritising getting the first dose into as many arms as possible as the UK has done, but I doubt that it was done without some real world data. Even if there is a reduction in protection from weeks 12-16, and I am unaware of any evidence that this is the case, it still seems sensible to get as many people protected with a first dose as possible. It's the only way to get a handle on this pandemic.
 
Got my second Pfizer yesterday. First one went real smooth; no reactions or side effects. Most of my contemporaries report feeling exhausted and jet lagged 2 - 3 days after their second. We'll see how that goes.
I'm amongst the last few in my age bracket to get vaccinated. A few hours late in scheduling an appointment can mean weeks of waiting. They fill up fast, and when each new group opens up, the barrage of appointment seekers crashes the state's antiquated computer system again. If you choose to come back later after things have settled down a bit, you wind up with an appointment sometime in the next century. Our state is opening appointments to the last group (everyone 16 and older) Monday next. Many of my acquaintances 30 and 40 years younger than me have completed their vaccinations and post-vax waiting period already. Hey, I don't have employment obligations or a family to feed, so I can afford to play the tortoise.
 
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