Covid-19 reports

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This Milan-China connection which the Italian Gov't 'sanctioned'into being is the linch-pin to the whole 'pandemic' explosion ... the connection between the two (leather fashion wear) combined with lax response by Government cadre-officials to warnings FROM THE MILITARY in November' .... combined with Chinese New Year ... and you have your perfect storm, God help us.

Appeciate your coverage of this Vincenzo
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I thought this was funny
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Italy report, 17th January, weekly changes
cases 2,381,277 +104,786, deaths 82,177 +3,422, recovered 1,745,726, +127,922, active cases 553,374, -26,558, tests 28,910,309, +1,018,916, people tested 15,889,027, +466,839, vaccines administered* 1,147,373, +504,154 * i've changed because from today start the 2nd vaccine but there is no separate informations
fatality rate 3.5% (=)
mortality rate 1,362 per million (+56)
test rate 479.3 per thousand (+16.9)
positive rate 15% (+0.2)
vaccines on population 19,022 per million (+8,358)
test rate this week 16,893 per million (+892)
positive rate this week 22.4% (-7.5)
new case rate this week 1,737 per million (-271)
new vaccines this week 8,358 per million (-901)
 
Minnesota report, January 19

total cases 448,268(+922), total recovered 431,096, total hospitalized 23,517/4,895(474/110)*, total deaths 5,945(+6), total tests 6,118,091**/***(+14,467)****
fatality rate 1.3%(+0.2% since December 7)
mortality rate 1061.6(+359 since December 7) per million
test rate 1092.5(+281.4 since December 7) per thousand
positive rate 7.3%(-0.4% since December 7)***/****

*The current cases hospitalized and in ICU. This number is down from 1,205/362 on December 7 to 474/110 today, or a decrease of ~63%. It is down from a high of 1,471/393 on November 29.
**This number is the total number of tests that have been processed.
***The actual total number of individuals that have received 1 or more tests is 3,156,853, so the actual per capita overall positivity rate is 14.2%(+0.9% since December 7).
****The current daily positivity rate is ~6%, down from ~17% shortly after the second lockdown began on November 13.

On December 7 Minnesota as a whole was operating at 88% of hospital capacity. In detail, 30% of Minnesota hospitals with ICUs were maxed out or overloaded, and 25% of Minnesota hospitals were at/or over maximum non-ICU capacity. Today, Minnesota as a whole is operating at ~78% of hospital capacity. In detail, 25% of of Minnesota hospitals with ICUs (nearly all of them in the Twin Cities Metro area) are at near maximum capacity, but there are no ICUs overloaded.

Note the decrease in load on the hospitals since December 7. This is what is meant by keeping the hospitals from being overloaded due to COVID-19.

The reduced rate of spread and easing of the work load on hospitals is almost entirely due to 2 things - Minnesota's second lockdown imposed on November 13, and that people are taking things more seriously. Mask wearing (regardless of how effective/ineffective it is) is now the norm around the metro area, in any indoor situation or close proximity situation outdoors. This is just my estimate but I would say that about 98% of people in the metro area are now obeying the mask order. It is still somewhat spotty in the more rural areas, and it is difficult for me to estimate how many are complying with the mask order, but I would say about 50-60% in the towns I visit while delivering packages (as opposed to almost none before the second lockdown).
 
I'm a year+ behind the curve, but nobody else mentioned this so I thought I'd do so:
from Wiki:
During the 2019 Military War Games held in Wuhan 16-27 Oct 2019: A large number of athletes from different delegations around the world had fallen ill with unusual symptoms during the games which some attribute to COVID-19, including returning French athletes Élodie Clouvel and Valentin Belaud; most have not been tested, and are under suppression orders as military authorities asserted that it would be impossible in any event to determine exactly when the infection had occurred. U.S. intelligence reportedly shared information regarding the ongoing threat of "potential pandemic from Wuhan outbreak" in November 2019. The U.S. Department of Defense Rumor Control Website dispels what is deemed conspiracy theories, stating that "senior U.S. Administration officials have repeatedly denounced the Chinese government's efforts to deflect responsibility for downplaying the threat early on" as well as "its lack of transparency during the early stages" and "being irresponsible and unhelpful with combating the pandemic the world is facing today".

Italy sent 139 soldiers, Canada 104, US 172
Further data (ref 0 for me) LifeSite Article on Plague Origin

tl/dr: Your own military became the Trojan Horse to spreading this thing in your country.

Does anybody have more light on this thought: World Military Games being a (possibly principal) vector of global spread?
 
Italy report, 24th January, weekly changes
cases 2,458,857 +77,580, deaths 85,461 +3,284, recovered 1,882,074, +136,348, active cases 499,278, -54,096, tests 29,893,362, +983,053, people tested 16,443,404, +554,377, vaccines administered 1,379,124, +231,751*, people full vaccinated 100,863, new. * Delivery troubles
fatality rate 3.5% (=)
mortality rate 1,417 per million (+55)
test rate 495.6 per thousand (+16.3)
positive rate 15% (=)
vaccines on population 22,865 per million (+3,843)
people full vaccinated 1,672 per million (new)
test rate this week 16,298 per million (-595)
positive rate this week 14% (-8.4)
new case rate this week 1,286 per million (-451)
new vaccines this week 3,842 per million (-4,516)
people full vaccinated this week 1,672 per million (new)
 
There is a suggestion from a study carried out in Italy that coronavirus antibodies were detected in people there well before the first case noted in China.

"A study published earlier this month in the scientific magazine Tumori Journal found coronavirus antibodies in 11.6 per cent of 959 asymptomatic people enrolled in a prospective lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020. Italy's first official COVID-19 case was detected in Lombardy on Feb. 21 this year [2020]."

"Our results indicate that SARS-CoV-2 circulated in Italy earlier than the first official COVID-19 cases were diagnosed in Lombardy, even long before the first official reports from the Chinese authorities, casting new light on the onset and spread of the COVID-19 pandemic," the Italian researchers said in their Nov.11 [2020] report, which is yet to be peer reviewed. The World Health Organization (WHO) told Global News it has reviewed the paper and would reach out to the authors to discuss and arrange for further analyses."

From here: Mystery of the coronavirus origin: Experts still seeking answers - National | Globalnews.ca
 
There is a suggestion from a study carried out in Italy that coronavirus antibodies were detected in people there well before the first case noted in China.
Not at all surprising. Coronavirus is not new. We talk about "flu season", but the "flu" is not always influenza virus; some "flu" are coronavirus, and have been since we could tell between the two.

"A study published earlier this month in the scientific magazine Tumori Journal found coronavirus antibodies in 11.6 per cent of 959 asymptomatic people enrolled in a prospective lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020. Italy's first official COVID-19 case was detected in Lombardy on Feb. 21 this year [2020]."
Needed: antibodies against which coronavirus were found?

"Our results indicate that SARS-CoV-2 circulated in Italy earlier than the first official COVID-19 cases were diagnosed in Lombardy, even long before the first official reports from the Chinese authorities, casting new light on the onset and spread of the COVID-19 pandemic," the Italian researchers said in their Nov.11 [2020] report, which is yet to be peer reviewed. The World Health Organization (WHO) told Global News it has reviewed the paper and would reach out to the authors to discuss and arrange for further analyses."
Ref my post above about the World Military Games in October 2019 and multiple WuHan Flu symptoms manifesting in returning soldiers.

Good read ... but not specific enough in not stating which coronavirus when, or that the information isn't known.[/QUOTE]
 
Good read ... but not specific enough in not stating which coronavirus when, or that the information isn't known.

That's pretty evident in the article. It makes no bones about the fact the study is unverified, but that's not the point. The point is to not just accept everything we are told about it yet.

"What I do think is there's going to be years of back and forth before we really have a smoking gun as to exactly what caused it and what the chain of events was."

Just don't get suckered in to the conspiracy theory BS that "they started it". It's up to those who who are dealing with it to "end" it.
 
Italy report, 31st January, weekly changes
cases 2,553,032 +94,175, deaths 88,516 +3,055, recovered 2,010,548, +128,474, active cases 453,968, -45,310, tests 30,840,359, +946,997, people tested 17,005,122, +561,718, vaccines administered 1,934,633, +555,509, people full vaccinated 594,826, +493,963.
fatality rate 3.5% (=)
mortality rate 1,468 per million (+51)
test rate 511.3 per thousand (+15.7)
positive rate 15% (=)
vaccines on population 32,074 per million (+9,209)
people full vaccinated 9,862 per million (+8,190)
test rate this week 15,700 per million (-598)
positive rate this week 16.8% (+2.8)
new case rate this week 1,561 per million (+275)
new vaccines this week 9,210 per million (+5,368)
people full vaccinated this week 9,862 per million (+8,190)
 
Same here. I will mask in public per state edict, but other than that, life goes on. My life is pretty isolated anyway. Work, home, eat, sleep.
My kids have been back in the classroom since September, other than a two week "pause" around Thanksgiving, when several families were either positive or waiting test results. My sister's family were infected last fall, but all made swift, uncomplicated recoveries. One person at my work got it, but only was out the required quarantine period. Then again, just about everybody was sick in Feb - March last year, but it couldn't have been Covid, because nobody was tested.
 
Italy report, 7th February, weekly changes
cases 2,636,738 +83,706, deaths 91,273 +2,757, recovered 2,118,441, +107,893, active cases 427,024, -26,944, tests 31,771,821, +931,462, people tested 17,702,105, +696,983, vaccines administered 2,546,913, +612,280, people full vaccinated 1,123,835, +529,009.
fatality rate 3.5% (=)
mortality rate 1,513 per million (+45)
test rate 526.7 per thousand (+15.4)
positive rate 14.9% (-0.1)
vaccines on population 42,225 per million (+10,151)
people full vaccinated 18,632 per million (+8,770)
test rate this week 15,443 per million (-257)
positive rate this week 12% (-4.8)
new case rate this week 1,388 per million -173)
new vaccines this week 10,151 per million (+941)
people full vaccinated this week 8,770 per million -1,092)
 
I just find the amazing lack of willingness to wear masks to be such a surprise: I can understand the hesitancy over the RNA vaccine since it's new and all it's quirks are not known, but honestly -- a mask is not a complicated thing to do.

Nobody criticizes fire-fighters for wearing protective gear.
 
I just find the amazing lack of willingness to wear masks to be such a surprise:[/bI can understand the hesitancy over the RNA vaccine since it's new and all it's quirks are not known, but honestly -- a mask is not a complicated thing to do.

Nobody criticizes fire-fighters for wearing protective gear.


"BECUZ MA FREEDUMZ!!!"
 
I've explained many times why wearing masks could be considered harmful while there is no proven positive effect. But people don't read and don't want to know. Everybody have their own opinion and that's mine, which I believe to be well founded. Explaining it only causes frustration for me, so I leave it at that.
 
"BECUZ MA FREEDUMZ!!!"
I think some people have no ability to tolerate inconvenience: Look at how many people walk around with their iPhone in front of them. I own one, but usually use an old flip-phone because I actually use my phone mostly to simply make/receive calls.

That said, I think there's a lot of it's disinformation, particularly about claims that it'll cause hypoxia: It sounded like nonsense because doctors would be dropping dead left and right. I also remember a video on YouTube where a guy put a CO2 detector under his face-mask and the numbers were improbably high (given that he did not even wrap the detector around the mask but had a loose seal, it's likely he mis-calibrated the device).

I actually decided to do a little experiment on masks on blood oxygen levels (getting informed consent is very easy when you're doing the experiment on yourself): I put on a pulse oximeter, checked the number, put on a face-mask (I've worn them before, so no harm, no foul), checked the number, and walked outside for about an hour doing periodic checks. Of course, there was no dangerous drop in SpO2.

It did illustrate another problem: Our education system really sucks (When I posted the results to a person I knew, they said "that still doesn't explain the carbon", which required me to explain how the respiratory and circulatory systems work).
 
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