eBay: Messerschmitt Bf109 (2 Viewers)

Engineman · May 14, 2025

Jaivan said:
From the same auctioneer, T695 and T693 are pretty interesting, showing cockpit detail for a G-5/AS retaining the pressurized canopy:
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It certainly looks as though this pilot plans to go to high altitude in this flight. The first test flights with the AS engine were in Dez. 1943, although the fairly light clothing of the groundcrew might suggest Spring 1944. In photo 2 of #3432you can see that the pilot is heavily dressed in a thick jacket/suit with a thick fur collar. Also, he wears thick gloves and can be seen to have a note-board and pencil.
Interesting photo's.

Eng

Snautzer01 · May 14, 2025

Spanien 1936 Legion Condor Olympic games early model Gotthard Handrick (25 October 1908 – 30 May 1978) German Olympic athlete

Career Summaries - Luftwaffe Officers 1935 - 1945
Section G - K
HANDRICK, Gotthardt. ("Otto") (DOB: 25.10.08 in Zeitz(Zittau?/Sachsen)). (DKG). Summer? 1934
with Fliegergruppe Döberitz (later I./JG 132). 01.04.35 appt Staka 1./JG 132 (to 18.07.37). 1936
winner of the Pentathlon in the Olympics. 17.07.37 Lt., 2./J/88 unhurt - Bf 109 B damaged in forced
landing vic Escalona del-Prado(Segovia), SW of Madrid, after combat with an I-16. 18.07.37 Hptm.,
appt Kdr. J/88 in Spain (to 10.09.38). 09.09.37 Hptm., with Stab. J/88. 18.05.38 Hptm., with Stab.
J/88. 11.09.38 appt Kdr. I./JG 234. 01.11.38 appt Kdr. I./JG 132. 01.05.39 Maj., appt Kdr. I./JG 26
(to 23.06.40). 24.06.40 Maj., appt Kommodore JG 26 (to 21.08.40). 26.08.40 Maj., appt Kdr.
Erg.JGr. Merseburg (to 06.10.40). 07.10.40 Maj., appt Kdr. III./JG 52 (to 22.06.41). 20.06.41 Maj.,
appt Kommodore JG 77 (to 01.05.42). 01.05.42 Obstlt., appt Kommodore JG 5 (to 06.43). (n.d.)
awarded the Ehrenpokal. 06.43 trf to Luftflotte Reich and appt Jagdabschnittsführer Wien (to
15.09.43). 15.09.43 appt Jagdfliegerführer Ostmark (to 15.06.44). 01.10.43 promo to Oberst.
17.10.43 Oberst, awarded DKG for service as Kommodore JG 5. 15.06.44 appt Kdr. 8. Jagddivision
(to 08.05.45). 12.44 Oberst, appt (acting?) Jagdabschnittsführer Mittelrhein (to 26.01.45). 26.01.45
appt (acting?) Jagdfliegerführer Mittelrhein (to 02.45). Credited with 15 victories (5 in Spain). Post
war he worked as a representative for Daimler-Benz. †30.05.78 in Ahrensburg. Buried at Murnau
am Staffelsee/Bayern

Snautzer01 · May 14, 2025

HANDRICK, Gotthardt. ("Otto") (DOB: 25.10.08 in Zeitz(Zittau?/Sachsen)). (DKG).

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mjfur · May 14, 2025

Engineman said:
It certainly looks as though this pilot plans to go to high altitude in this flight. The first test flights with the AS engine were in Dez. 1943, although the fairly light clothing of the groundcrew might suggest Spring 1944. In photo 2 of #3432you can see that the pilot is heavily dressed in a thick jacket/suit with a thick fur collar. Also, he wears thick gloves and can be seen to have a note-board and pencil.
Interesting photo's.

Eng

Actually the pilot is wearing a cloth electrically wired flight jacket with velvet collar. The wiring did not heat the jacket, the sockets on the sleeve were for heated gloves which he is not wearing.

Wurger · May 14, 2025

Engineman · May 14, 2025

mjfur said:
Actually the pilot is wearing a cloth electrically wired flight jacket with velvet collar. The wiring did not heat the jacket, the sockets on the sleeve were for heated gloves which he is not wearing.

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My Bad. Sorry, Velvet not Fur.
Mind you, maybe that guy had a bespoke Fur collar on his ?

Eng

CATCH 22 · May 14, 2025

Engineman said:
My Bad. Sorry, Velvet not Fur.
Mind you, maybe that guy had a bespoke Fur collar on his ?

Eng

I remember this material very vividly - my granny had a winter coat with a collar made of it. It looked like fur with very very short hairs and was ultra soft, like velvet not like real fur. On the reversed side it was black fabric. I think this "fake fur" had a specific name, maybe a French word, but I don't recall it anymore.

Engineman · May 14, 2025

CATCH 22 said:
I remember this material very vividly - my granny had a winter coat with a collar made of it. It looked like fur with very very short hairs and was ultra soft, like velvet not like real fur. On the reversed side it was black fabric. I think this "fake fur" had a specific name, maybe a French word, but I don't recall it anymore.

Could be "Faux Fur"?

Eng

Wurger · May 14, 2025

Engineman said:
Could be "Faux Fur"?

Eng

IIRC a such collar could be made either of the a rabbit or lamb/sheep. The Russians used the raccoon dog fur.

CATCH 22 · May 14, 2025

Engineman said:
Could be "Faux Fur"?

Eng

Faux fur is what they would call it nowadays. Maybe it was used earlier too. I was thinking of something like "chenille" for example. A specific word. Maybe it was just velvet.....

Snautzer01 · May 17, 2025

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1939's - 1945's WWII Luftwaffe Messtrstlnitt Bf 109 - Archive Photo | eBay

High quality thick paper with stamp on back. The exact date is unknown.

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Jaivan · May 17, 2025

Engineman said:
It certainly looks as though this pilot plans to go to high altitude in this flight. The first test flights with the AS engine were in Dez. 1943, although the fairly light clothing of the groundcrew might suggest Spring 1944. In photo 2 of #3432you can see that the pilot is heavily dressed in a thick jacket/suit with a thick fur collar. Also, he wears thick gloves and can be seen to have a note-board and pencil.
Interesting photo's.

Eng

In a Bf 109 airframe, Rechlin Dez. for sure (in G-5 W.Nr. 27115 DQ+GI), bu DB already carried flight test from Nov.43 (in G-6 W.Nr. 16550 KT+DX).

BTW, in T695 a "G" can be seen as first letter for the Stammkennzeichen so, if caption is correct and the photos were taken in Rechlin, most likely candidate machines are G-5 W.Nr. 110008 GI+FB, G-5 W.Nr. 110010 GI+FD or G-5 W.Nr. 110035 GO+NC.