eBay: North American P-51 Mustang

[Navalwarrior]

Think it is a C model notice lamp in right wing.

Resp:
Very good. That means it was assembled in Dallas, TX. The first real 'C' model I ever saw (in the flesh) was in Harlingen, TX in 1968 in a hanger used by the Confederate Air Force. The fuselage was propped up on 55 gal drums at the rear of the hanger, with the wings lying flat on the floor. The story is that this Mustang was stored in a Montana barn after it was purchased from the Govt post WWII. It remained in the hanger until around the mid 1960s, later to be acquired by the CAF. Since funds were in short supply (seeking out other rare aircraft) this 'C' model wasn't refurbished until the 1980s and displayed in the markings of the Tuskegee Airmen. I cannot remember the tact number, but it was never fitted with a dorsal fin.

 

[Snautzer01]

*WWII photo- 325th Fighter Group- P 51 Fighter plane Nose Art- EILEEN HONEY* | eBay

 

[Wurger]

 

[Snautzer01]

FOTO FLUGZEUG P-51D MUSTANG SCHWEDISCHE LUFTWAFFE | eBay

 

[Snautzer01]

FOTO FLUGZEUG MUSTANG Mk 4 403 (FB) SQUADRON ROYAL CANADIEN AIR FORCE | eBay

 

[Wayne Little]

 

[Navalwarrior]

FOTO FLUGZEUG P-51D MUSTANG SCHWEDISCHE LUFTWAFFE | eBay

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Resp:

FOTO FLUGZEUG P-51D MUSTANG SCHWEDISCHE LUFTWAFFE | eBay

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Resp:
Nice photos. The Swedish Mustang photo is post WWII? A few years ago I visited a flying museum in Houston, TX and saw up close three P-51Ds. One was a P-51D-5NA that is likely the oldest airworthy D model. At some point, it was retro fitted with a dorsal fin, common to all subsequent built D models. The mechanic (who was working on the engine) never realized the aircraft's significance, other than it still had the original propeller. He said that the museum owner would surely like to know this tidbit.

 

[fubar57]

43 were delivered in April 23 '45 and there were already two Bs and two Ds in active service

EDIT: some serial numbers here.....http://wildbillcrump.com/images/DELIVERING MUSTANGS.pdf

 

[Wurger]

 

[Navalwarrior]

43 were delivered in April 23 '45 and there were already two Bs and two Ds in active service

EDIT: some serial numbers here.....http://wildbillcrump.com/images/DELIVERING MUSTANGS.pdf

Resp:
Aside from the K's Aeroproducts propeller, when did non-cuffed propellers begin to be used on P-51Ds?

 

[MIflyer]

D models were refurbed for use in Korea and were equipped with Aeroproducts props at that time. Postwar they found that the cuffs allowed water to get between the cuff and the prop and promote corrosion, so they were removed even on Ham Standard props.

A friend of mine, a WWII and postwar maintenance chief, pointed out that a major reason for the cuffs was to streamline the base of the prop, which was more or less just cylindrical and thus not very aerodynamic.

 

[Navalwarrior]

D models were refurbed for use in Korea and were equipped with Aeroproducts props at that time. Postwar they found that the cuffs allowed water to get between the cuff and the prop and promote corrosion, so they were removed even on Ham Standard props.

A friend of mine, a WWII and postwar maintenance chief, pointed out that a major reason for the cuffs was to streamline the base of the prop, which was more or less just cylindrical and thus not very aerodynamic.

Resp:
I read many years ago that the USAF(F?) mothballed 100 P-51D/K Mustangs in Japan (occupation force) after fighter jets phased out prop types. This P-51s were refurbished when the Korean War began. National Guard F-51D/K's were used to supplement/replace these Japanese stored Mustangs. I wonder if any of the 100 still had 'cuffed' propellers.

 

[Snautzer01]

Original slide J-2113 North American P-51D Mustang Swiss Air Force, 1972 | eBay

 

[Snautzer01]

coming soon

 

[Peter Gunn]

Original slide J-2113 North American P-51D Mustang Swiss Air Force, 1972 | eBay

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I'm embarrassed to admit it but I must ask what that little bulge/scoop is directly in front of the windscreen? Is there an access panel there that is open?

 

[Navalwarrior]

I'm embarrassed to admit it but I must ask what that little bulge/scoop is directly in front of the windscreen? Is there an access panel there that is open?

Resp:
Good eye! First time I have seen that, and I have spent much time around Mustangs. Also, this Mustang appears to have a non-cuffed propeller.

 

[Wurger]

The small air intake in front of the cockpit is a Swiss modification for providing additional fresh air to the cockpit. And yest there is a such panel.

 

[Wurger]

Regarding the prop .. I would say it is still the Hamilton-Standard HS 24D50-87 cuffed one. Just it stopped at position the pic makes the impression of the non-cuffed blades. Please note the bottom and right prop blade in the enlarged shot . What is more the plane had the cuffed prop blades in the late 50' as well.

the pic source: North American P-51D Mustang, Hasegawa 1:32 von Helmut Dominik

 

[Peter Gunn]

The small air intake in front of the cockpit is a Swiss modification for providing additional fresh air to the cockpit. And yes there is a such panel.

Ahh, thank you, that makes sense, I can see it in the second photo in your post #198 as well.

 

[Wurger]

My pleasure. Here are two shots more showing the detail better...

the pic source; Swiss Mustangs

the pic source: Matterhorn Circle - P-51D