Erich: Jumo 213E data

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  1. paul.kachurak

    paul.kachurak New Member

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    I don't know where I got these from. IIRC I copied them off another forum. Per your request:

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  2. Erich

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    vielen Dank Paul !!

    this is great, and in it goes with the files. ...... .

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    Hi

    Thanks for this chart, it's great, I've been looking for some kind of source for Jumo 213E power and I finally found it :D

    I also have one small question: as we know the Jumo 213E was a engine of Ta 152H and H1. But I found 2 version of this engine:
    1) Jumo 213 E-1 (without aftercooler, the MW-50 use to be a substitute of cooler)
    2) Jumo 213 E-0 (with aftercoller).

    My question are:1) which of those 2 were in use as a engine of Ta 152H1 ?? and was the performance of E-1 different from E-0 version ?? I would be grateful for any informotion.
    2)What was the power of this engine using MW-50 ?? - I found that 2050 hp, but I don't know rpms and attitude.

    PS. Sorry for my language, but I don't speak English well.
     
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    Just a question for a correct translation:
    Zweistufen-Dreiganglader = two-stage three-speed supercharger ?
     
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    Jumo 213A-1 performance just for comparison's sake;
     

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    Soren, Thanks for this Jumo 213A chart.
    But, please :), can someone answer my little question ?? Which version of Jumo 213 E (E-1 or E-0) were used as a engine of Ta 152 H-1 and what was the performance of Jumo 213E with MW-50 injection.
    We can see the characteristics of Jumo 213E on Take Off Power at 3200 rpm, but does anyone have a chart with including MW-50 ??

    Thanks in advance
     
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    The charts show power output with MW-50 injection which is 2,050 PS for the 213E and 2,250 PS for the 213A-1.
     
  8. Denniss

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    No, the 2240PS rating is of the 213AG-1. This engine had a different type of Kommandogerät but was not used in combat. AFAIK it proved to be somewhat unreliable, at least they had soem problems with it.
     
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    Was it called AG-1 ? All I know is a different supercharger setting was used.

    I know 2,100 PS was the highest out-put used operationally, 2,250 PS only reachable with a different supercharger setting.
     
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    Wouldn't 213E-0 simply be a preproduction 213E? As such the prototype Ta 152s would probably have been powered by these...

    Then there's also the question what the 213Eb was about ...


    Kris
     
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    Maybe, but I read that E-1 version does not have aftercooler (MW-50 supposed to be cooler). I also noticed, that in most publications the E-1 Version (for example Monogram Close - Up 24) is shown as the Ta 152 engine.
     
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    A closer look on the graphs shows something strange: There are only three bumps in both the power graph as well as in the fuel usage graph. That looks more like a single-stage three-speed supercharging system, a two-stage supercharger with three speeds should have more bumps in the graphs.

    Either I'm completely wrong or the engine tested did not have all supercharger items fully functional.
     
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    First of all, I don't know about the aftercooler.
    But could this be in any way connected with the Jumo 213F lacking an intercooler (but perhaps including an aftercooler??)


    Kris
     
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