Butters
Senior Airman
Hey now! That is impressive! The only two F15s that were never shot down and he got them. BOTH!
That must be one really tough sim.![]()
That's basically what I said. When I pointed out that no F-15's had been shot down in air-to-air combat, he got really excited and started going on about how the Israelis always lie...blah blah blah.
The curious thing is that the guy WAS a pilot. The reason he was at the party was because my friend was a float-plane rating examiner, and the guy was in town to be checked out. I don't think that he was ever a fighter pilot, tho. He didn't seem to know much about MiGs or anything else tactical...
The point about the real veterans often being a low-key is something that i can personally attest to. My grandfather was a highly-decorated WWII veteran serving in Sicily and Italy (Where he was so seriously wounded he was over a year recovering. You could see the scars and fragments of shrapnel under the skin of legs and chest...). As he got older, he would tell me more and more about it, but would usually focus on the amusing stuff. Like how the neighboring Ghurkas would constantly call out, "Hey, Johhny. Come wrestle. Come wrestle.", to the Canadians. My gramps was a big, strong guy who'd worked in the woods all his life and he took the little fellows up on their offer. Once...

At his memorial service, the local Legion put together a display of his military record, which included documents showing that he'd been mentioned in despatches twice, and been awarded the Military Medal for Valour. He'd also taken part in three 11-man missions behind enemy lines. It was on the last one that he was seriously wounded when his unit got lost while being chased at night by the Germans and accidentally crossed the line (a river) three or four miles downstream from their planned crossing point. It was a Greek unit on his own side that blew him and his teamates to pieces...
He'd told me about the last, but never mentioned any of the others. He was Gunner Kendall Longmire, Forward Artillery Observer, RCA.
JL