Fleet Air Arm Pacific Roundels

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  1. Catch22

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    Ok. The Fleet Air Arm had numerous roundels during the war, but I'm wondering what each of them signify, or if they were just generic roundels.

    I know the one with the bars was Pacific Fleet, but I've seen many other kinds, such as the following. Any help would be appreciated!
     

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    Sorry mate I can't be of help (as proven by my Corsair)

    Interesting pics though!
     
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    RAAF wannabe's :lol:
     
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    I'm not very 'well up' on the theatre, but those are the 'standard' SEAC roundels. (South East Asia Command). They originated as the blue/white/red RAF roundel, and the red centre was removed to avoid any possible confusion, at a distance, with the Japanese 'meatball' roundel. The size was reduced, and, on certain coloured backgrounds, to make them more visible, a white outline was added.
    I'm not sure, but I think the bars were added, and the roundel enlarged, at about the time the US introduced 'bars to the stars'. This was to make the entire marking appear as a rectangle at a distance, rather than a blur of a disc or square. As to specific area requirements, I don't know, as I know the SEAC roundel was still used in some areas, even when the bars and roundels were also being used.
    Hope this helps a bit.
     
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    Thanks Terry, I think I have it figured out.

    What was confusing me was that there are those roundels, and then there are the ones with a lighter blue on the inside.

    So basically, those with the blue on the inside I've only seen on Spitfires, Hurricanes, P-47s, or any other RAF plane. The blue and white ones however, like those above, all seem to be on FAA planes. So, the blue/blue ones are RAF, and the blue/white are FAA. If that makes any sense.
     
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    Yep, I think that's about right Cory.
     
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    Sounds reasonable....
     
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    I'm sure I've seen pics of FAA Burracuda's with the SEAC Blue/blue roundels. Anyone else else seen these or am I mistaken?
     
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    I personally haven't seen them. Do you have access to them?
     
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    I can't find any pics Cory but I'll quote a passage for the book "Barracuda Pilot" by Dunstan Hadley,
    He was part of 822 sqn which bombed the railyards at Sigli in Northern Sumatra on the 18th of Sep 1944.
     
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    I couldn't find any pictures either, however I did find this neat shot of Victorious at the FAA Archive.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Neet pic Cory!
     
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