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1st Lieutenant
Next year i'll have to reaquire a passport to go anywhere south
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Yes, it's far from ideal. The principle behind it is noble, giving small countries a bit more to say. A small country like Liechtenstein has a much to say as China. But going for the other method is also troublesome: based on population China would have 3 times more votes than the US, and 100 times more than Belgium. So what do we use as a guide? Perhaps GDP or size of the economy? But then the rich countries get even more power...Hasn't anybody thought that the idea of each member state in the UN having an equal voice is absurd? Why should a state with a substantially smaller population have as much voice as say... China??? That's not exactly democratic.
But for Hunter's fear of a world bully, the US would not allow such an invasion. The public still has some control over what the pols do and I can't see a scenario like that happening.
You say that now.......but what about in 25 years? 50 years? 75 Years?
I am sure the countries around Germany never thought they would see WW1 coming.... or perhaps WW2 (well maybe lol).
What about Japan when it started flexing it's military might before 1940.
I am not comparing USA to Germany or Japan but I am just trying to make a point that goverments change, popular opinion changes, all things change over time.
I agree USA would never do such a thing .....now. But who knows what the USA will look like in 25, 50, 75 years.
When you are part of the most powerful nation on the planet.....well I am sure you are not to concerned. But people living in smaller nations might be a little more concerned. I am not willing to blindly "trust" USA with my life, future or my sovereignty.
I say this with all the respect in the world towards USA, but I trust no one blindly when they are holding a much bigger stick than I am.
Thats my point
Living in Canada for 5 years, I understand where you're coming from. But look at this way - look at the US 25 years ago and then look at the US today - little change. Even go back 40 years; the biggest difference (in my opinion) is more civil rights laws and more sensitivity toward minority groups (some ridiculous, some necessary). I think our societies and cultures are so similar any changes are usually transparent when viewed from "sitting on the fence."
So now you're also a scientist and expert on WMDs? Personally, I couldn't be sure something is a WMD if you put it right on my desk. And then I start couphing up blood and my eyes start popping out...
Chill down dude, I wasn't insulting your intelligence. I said I wouldn't recognize a WMD either! You need to be an expert to recognize it as a WMD, and you said you saw it yourself. You didn't mention any experts around you...Now you are just being stupid and instulting.
Did I ever say that I was a scientist or expert on WMD's?
No so dont go and insult my intelligence...
No ... but I do know what Atropine injectors are. If I really was insulting your intelligence, I would say you can't even say it right...Third do you even know what Anthropene Injectors are? I carried 2 of them on me at all times.
Chill down dude, I wasn't insulting your intelligence. I said I wouldn't recognize a WMD either! You need to be an expert to recognize it as a WMD, and you said you saw it yourself. You didn't mention any experts around you...
No ... but I do know what Atropine injectors are. If I really was insulting your intelligence, I would say you can't even say it right...
So Chris, what was found and where? Perhaps you'll find it mentioned in the Survey Report. Only 700 pages to browse through...
Iraq Survey Group Final Report
Except for two members, all I've heard from you guys is how the media tricks us and that the truth is hidden ... isn't that convenient? You can prove anything by that. And what about right-wing media then? How come they don't provide proof?
And note that I'm not using any media sources, I'm using official reports. Like I said before, the guys at the Pentagon and the CIA would sell their mothers to find WMDs in Iraq.
Kris
Chill down dude, I wasn't insulting your intelligence. I said I wouldn't recognize a WMD either! You need to be an expert to recognize it as a WMD, and you said you saw it yourself. You didn't mention any experts around you...
Civettone said:No ... but I do know what Atropine injectors are. If I really was insulting your intelligence, I would say you can't even say it right...
Civettone said:So Chris, what was found and where? Perhaps you'll find it mentioned in the Survey Report. Only 700 pages to browse through...
Iraq Survey Group Final Report
Civettone said:Except for two members, all I've heard from you guys is how the media tricks us and that the truth is hidden ... isn't that convenient? You can prove anything by that. And what about right-wing media then? How come they don't provide proof?
And note that I'm not using any media sources, I'm using official reports. Like I said before, the guys at the Pentagon and the CIA would sell their mothers to find WMDs in Iraq.
Kris
Don't pull that one on me again. You didn't say anything about experts. You need to be an expert to know what a WMD is. (Or why were those experts there.) So then I asked, are you an expert? No, you're not. I also said I wasn't an expert either, so I don't see what you could find insulting about that.I said I saw the site myself and walked though the site...
Go back and read the post, if you dont understand what I am saying then please ask and I will tell you but dont tell me what I mean by my words.
More than I'm aware of. If I wanted to ridicule you, I would have used that typo to my advantage, saying you don't even know how they are called, so how...Simple typo, you make them too...
Well, if you want I can give you some other examples where the US Military claimed that WMDs were found, and that a team of specialists later found they weren't WMDs or no longer active.I dont give a damn what that report says. I know what has been seen and what was reported as found by our units. If it does not make into a report sounds to me like there is a cover up going on...
I do read your post but you systematically say EVERYTHING is wrong except for what you've seen with your own eyes. I disagree with that. And I've already explained why I disagree with that. I've made analogies with WW2 eye witness accounts. "I've shot down a He 113 and I don't care if you tell me there never was one. Who was there? You or I??"Then you again are proving that you are not reading a single thing
If you don't like my sarcasm, you have come to the wrong place Civ. My sarcasm defines my 5000 posts. So get used to it.
I disagree. Hunter, you are not impartial either, are you?
One needs to be an expert to correctly identify WMDs. Chris is not. So I asked "Are you a scientist and expert on WMD?"
I did not want to insult Chris. If I gave that impression, I apologize.
But now I would like to continue the discussion. And I can also do without Matt's sarcastic comments and his habit of making claims without backing them up.
Kris