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THE jU287 used the fuselage of a He 177 A-0 Grief, therefore size is not different to the V38 aircraftThe following link answers the first question:
German Bomber modified for A Bomb Delivery - Page 2 - Axis History Forum
Just so you know - you're replying to a post that is almost a year old by a member who was banned.THE jU287 used the fuselage of a He 177 A-0 Grief, therefore size is not different to the V38 aircraft
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The Ju287 used the fuselage of an He177A-5.THE jU287 used the fuselage of a He 177 A-0 Grief, therefore size is not different to the V38 aircraft
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It is the topic which interests meJust so you know - you're replying to a post that is almost a year old by a member who was banned.
OK - just letting you knowIt is the topic which interests me
The Ju287 V1 fitted with an enlarged bomb bay for the 76 Zentner, had fixed spatted wheels , so wheel retraction was not an issue.
He 177 - experimental Hecklafette HL 131V
THE jU287 used the fuselage of a He 177 A-0 Grief, therefore size is not different to the V38 aircraft
Aircraft and crews have been made available for this since 1943. Aircraft and crews have been made available since 1943. Peter Brill reported on April 2, 2005 at a conference in Sabadell about his service as an Air Force pilot that he was selected for a special mission after completing his course at a flight school. April 2005 at a conference in Sabadell [Spain] on his service as an Air Force pilot that he is after the end of his course at a flight school for a special selected. He was to be trained in astronavigation for He-177s, which were intended to bomb New York.Flugzeuge und Besatzungen wurden seit 1943 dafür zur Verfügung gestellt. Aircraft and crews have been since 1943 were made available. So berichtete Peter Brill am 2. Peter Brill reported on 2 April 2005 auf einer Konferenz in Sabadell über seinen Dienst als Luftwaffenpilot, daß er nach Ende seines Kurses auf einer Flugschule für einen Sondereinsatz ausgewählt wurde. April 2005 at a conference in Sabadell on his service as an Air Force pilot that he is after the end of his course at a flight school for a special selected. Er sollte dazu in Astronavigation für He-177 ausgebildet werden, die dafür vorgesehen waren, New York zu bombardieren.
The contemporary witness AK saw four He-177s standing in Sprottau when he was drafted into the Air Force at the end of 1943 and was supposed to be trained as a fighter pilot. The machines were intended to fly non-stop to New York. The machines, hidden under camouflage nets, would have had a huge bomb bay in which there would have been room for a car. Two propeller turbines with counter-rotating four-blade propellers, together with an increased fuel supply, should ensure sufficient range and speed.Der Zeitzeuge AK sah vier He-177 in Sprottau stehen, als er Ende 1943 zur Luftwaffe eingezogen wurde und zum Jagdflieger ausgebildet werden sollte. Die Maschinen seien dafür vorgesehen gewesen, im Non Stop-Flug nach New York zu fliegen . Die unter Tarnnetzen verborgenen Maschinen hätten über einen riesigen Bombenschacht verfügt, in dem ein Auto Platz gehabt hätte. Zwei Propellerturbinen mit gegenläufigen Vierblattpropellern sollten zusammen mit vergrößertem Treibstoffvorrat für genügend Reichweite und Geschwindigkeit sorgen.
What happened to the "He-177" American bombers from Sprottau is uncertain. According to the information provided by the witness, they probably remained in Sprottau and, if not destroyed beforehand, fell into the hands of the Russians. He himself saw the four aircraft for the last time in the summer of 1944, when he was assigned to the paratroopers. The question remains whether this is already the.Was mit den >He-177<-Amerikabombern von Sprottau geschah, ist unsicher. Nach Informationen des Zeugen blieben sie wahrscheinlich in Sprottau und fielen, sofern sie nicht vorher zerstört wurden, den Russen in die Hände. Er selbst sah die vier Flugzeuge zum letzten Mal im Sommer 1944, als er zu den Fallschirmjägern abkommandiert wurde. Die Frage bleibt, ob es sich hier bereits um die.
Operation machines has acted. What was up with the propeller turbines has not been clarified either. The modern He-277 B-5 / R2 was also supposed to fly to America on a one-way flight. Up to July 3, 1944, nine copies of the high-altitude long-range bomber powered by four DB603 or Jumo 222 (later retrofitting) could still be produced. At a service ceiling of 15,000 m, the> He-277 B-5 <was able to transport 2500 kg bombs over 6000 km (without additional tanks) and easily reach 700 km / h in orbit flight. [ 378 Knots]Einsatzmaschinen gehandelt hat. Was es mit den Propellerturbinen auf sich gehabt hat, ist auch nicht geklärt. Nach Amerika im >Einwegflug< sollte auch die moderne >He-277 B-5/R2 < fliegen. Bis zum 3. By 3 Juli 1944 konnten noch neun Exemplare des von vier DB603 oder Jumo 222 (spätere Nachrüstung) angetriebenen Höhenfernbombers hergestellt werden. Bei einer Dienstgipfelhöhe von 15000 m konnte die > He-277 B-5 < 2500 kg Bomben über 6000 km (ohne Zusatztanks) transportieren und im Bahnneigungsflug problemlos 700 km/h erreichen.
Der Zeitzeuge AK sah vier He-177 in Sprottau stehen, als er Ende 1943 zur Luftwaffe eingezogen wurde und zum Jagdflieger ausgebildet werden sollte. Die unter Tarnnetzen verborgenen Maschinen hätten über einen riesigen Bombenschacht verfügt, in dem ein Auto Platz gehabt hätte. Nach Amerika im Einwegflug sollte auch die moderne He-277 B-5/R2 fliegen. Bis zum 3. By 3 Juli 1944 konnten noch neun Exemplare des von vier DB603 oder Jumo 222 (spätere Nachrüstung) angetriebenen Höhenfernbombers hergestellt werden. Bei einer Dienstgipfelhöhe von 15000 m konnte die > He-277 B-5 < 2500 kg Bomben über 6000 km (ohne Zusatztanks) transportieren und im Bahnneigungsflug problemlos 700 km/h erreichen.
He should be in astro navigation for He-177 training, which were designed, to bomb New York. The witness saw four AK-177 He is in Sprottau, the end of 1943 when he was collected on Air Force fighter pilot and to be trained. The hidden Tarnnetz machine had an enormous bomb bay has in place a car would have been. Two propeller turbines with counter Vierblattpropellern should be read in conjunction with oversized fuel supply for sufficient range and speed of care. What to do with the> I-177 <-bombers from America Sprottau happened is uncertain.According to the witnesses they were probably in Sprottau and fell, unless they were destroyed before the Russians in their hands. He himself saw the four aircraft for the last time in the summer of 1944, when he was one of the paratroopers was abkommandiert. The question remains whether it is already here to use the machines acted. What are the propeller turbines to be had, is not clarifiedHe should be in astro navigation for He-177 training, which were designed, to bomb New York. The witness saw four AK-177 He is in Sprottau, the end of 1943 when he was collected on Air Force fighter pilot and to be trained. The hidden Tarnnetz machine had an enormous bomb bay has in place a car would have been. Two propeller turbines with counter Vierblattpropellern should be read in conjunction with oversized fuel supply for sufficient range and speed of care. What to do with the> I-177 <-bombers from America Sprottau happened is uncertain.According to the witnesses they were probably in Sprottau and fell, unless they were destroyed before the Russians in their hands. He himself saw the four aircraft for the last time in the summer of 1944, when he was one of the paratroopers was abkommandiert. The question remains whether it is already here to use the machines acted. What are the propeller turbines to be had, is not clarified
According to America in> Disposable flight <should be the modern> He-277 B-5/R2 <fly. July 1944 were nine copies of the four-DB603 or Jumo 222 (later retrofitting) driven Höhenfernbombers produced. With a service ceiling of 15000 m was> He-277 B-5 <2500 kg bombs over 6000 km (without extra tanks) in the transport and rail inclination flight easily 700 km / h reached.
Tail gun There were all kinds of tail turrets tried for He 177 before they bagged the project in favor of fighter manufacturing, single MG 131, 2xMG131, 4x MG 131, 4xMG81J, 1xMG151, fully rotating electric 2x MG 151....View attachment 381703
The Ju287 had fixed spatted wheels, therefore , there is no conflict that wheels had to retract into the bomb bay. that just is not true. It had the fuselage from an He177 with the same 4.6m Length bomb bay of the He177 V38 aircraft.Hi PH.
My understanding (limited), is that monstrous conglomeration of aircraft parts (He-177, Ju-388, Ju-352 and B-24) that we call the Ju-287 is just a rapidly produced machine to test the FSW concept.
The production Ju-287 was going to be quite different with a very slim fuselage as per Vahe's illustration showing the main undercart wheels barely fitting when retracted.
He mentioned...
"However, it is clear that the He 177 V38 was merely intended to test the bomb bay of the production Junkers Ju 287 forward swept wing bomber."
How can that be?
Sure, I can visualise the 'Monster' with the large bomb-bay - but the Nazi's weren't gonna use that to drop an A-bomb - were they??w
The Ju287 had fixed spatted wheels, therefore , there is no conflict that wheels had to retract into the bomb bay. that just is not true.
The following link answers the first question:
German Bomber modified for A Bomb Delivery - Page 2 - Axis History Forum
The same place where the Heinkel He177 V38 was modified?
The He177 V38 was modified by Teilehersteller der Junkers AG. at the Letov plant.