PWR4360-59B
Senior Airman
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- May 27, 2008
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I TEAM: Pilot blamed in deadly Lake Erie plane crash
Spatial disorientation the cause. That is just wow. I guess the instruments didn't work good then. I'm sure it was
an IFR flight as well.
That is one of many of those types of accidents in that area, do the search.
I TEAM: Pilot blamed in deadly Lake Erie plane crash
Spatial disorientation the cause. That is just wow. I guess the instruments didn't work good then. I'm sure it was
an IFR flight as well.
That is one of many of those types of accidents in that area, do the search.
I've been under a hood flying in the past many times. The guy in the jet had way more hours than me and tons of IFR too boot. I am curious I didn't see if they found the people that where on the plane? If a pilot knows how to read the instruments they will over come all your inner ear weaknesses. I was put into all sorts of situations with my head down and eyes closed, then told to fly the plane. So what about all the other missing plane cases and crashes in that area. What are all your answers for that?
I've had it happen during my IFR training, it kept feeling like I was in a left climbing turn. it was really hard to shake that feeling, and a number of times I almost told my instructor that the A/H must have failed. But during my initial ground HF training, it was beaten into us to trust the instruments - there were failure warnings there for a reason, so I kept shaking my head every time I got that feeling again - it messes up with the inner ear organs and 'resets' them.
Then, when instructing, I'd see how much of an unusual attitude I could get an aircraft in while the student thought we were reasonably straight and level - the best was 95º bank angle with almost no airspeed.
Or its just that there's a higher than average concentration of traffic in the area, like the Bermuda 'Triangle' Scientist 'solves' mystery of the Bermuda Triangle – by claiming there was no mystery in the first placeIf you can't trust one instrument that is what the others are for, gosh turn bank indicator and altimeter and rate of climb, airspeed, easy stuff. Just like planes that spin out of control, it is all a case of either you have it in you or you don't. The main problem with that great lakes area is something is messing everything up, pilots with 25K plus hours have crashed there, there are some scary flying stories in that area.
I've always wondered how a little bird would do in a plane where the pilot doesn't know up from down. I'm betting the bird would do great his little instruments wouldn't fail him.
Yeah, it's amazing how messed up things go when you can't see at all. The only cues you have are your feet against the ground (doesn't apply when flying an aircraft) and memorization of the layout of the house.I used to take students out to the football field, zero obstacles, and ask them to simply walk directly across the field totally blindfolded.
United 389's problem was they misread the altimeter and not realizing they were too low, just went right into Lake Michigan. If I recall they were flying flaps up, 270 knots indicated, and BOOSH! I don't think they even felt what hit 'em.If you do the study of that area, you will see that there are many many aircraft crashes and or missing, and all the crashes are always said to be caused by the same thing. Search United airlines flight 389
Few things work well when you're tired!I know from personal experience you can get vertigo easier if you're fatigued