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Frigidaire was contracted to build AN/M2 machine guns in June 1941. They made 500 design changes to reduce cost to 25% of original cost. So a few minor problems like not being able to shoot might pop up.I was reading the minutes of Air Staff meetings today, and the one from December 17th 1941, just 10 days after Pearl Harbor, really struck me. I've always been given the impression that the reaction to that attack was sudden and firm, yet in that meeting General Spaatz himself brought up this: "Item 10. Question of Christmas leave for [a] few days." I mean, this was even a thing that USAAC people were asking about, or expecting? Spaatz's answer surprised me even more: "All right if we can get hold of them" presumably in case they were needed back, in case, oh, I don't know, something important happened? There are all sorts of other little surprises in those Staff Meeting notes, like instead of jumping in as the Arsenal Of Democracy, America in fact was short on just about everything. "British at Cairo can give us 6 tons of ammunition, half to go on B-24 and arrangements to be made for carrying the other half." Or "Colonel Sorensen to check on practicality of using 15 inch shells for bombs. Also to convert British shells to bombs."
There are some interesting tidbits about specific aircraft as well. Again, General Spaatz:, 12/19/41 "Importance of Dive Bombers was stressed. Must develop and conduct research on possibility of converting light bombers of the 54 and 84 group programs into dive bombers. Also investigation of the practicability of using light bombers as night pursuit... Also taking into consideration attaching a light weight bomb on the P-40's and other pursuit for converting them into dive bombers." They'd have to be very shallow dives in order for the falling bombs to be sure of clearing the propellers. Speaking of P-40s, the same meeting said this: "There are no objections to sending P-39's to X to replace an equal number of P-40's as the P-40's are said to be inferior to certain new types of Jap[anese] pursuit ships." Interesting that they obviously considered P-39 to be a more competitive fighter than P-40. And "X" crops up throughout these meetings as some sensitive place, but since these notes were originally classified Secret, and apparently it was still necessary to be circumspect at that level, it's intriguing.
One last example, from the 12/29/41 meeting: "General Weaver reported that the guns made by Frigidaire will not shoot. He has informed General Arnold of this condition." Wonder what that was all about?
The first B-17s for the RAF arrived in 1941. 20 B-17C as Fortress I which flew their first sorties in the high altitude bombing role on 8 July 1941. The type proved to be less than successful both in operations from Britain and in the Middle East. 7 survivors went to Coastal Command from Jan 1942 to assist crew training for later models in 220 and later 206 squadrons. Some operational sorties were flown with these by 220 squadron between 26th April and mid/late July 1942Why would personnel in the air staff not get leave? It was abundantly clear that this would not be a short war. Front-line personnel were granted leave, so why not those in rear echelons?
Bear in mind that it took quite a while for the US steamroller to start moving. The first B-17s didn't get to the UK until July 1942. Given the pace of communication and the air staff's role, letting folk take leave "for a few days" in December 1941 makes perfect sense.
The first B-17s for the RAF arrived in 1941. 20 B-17C as Fortress I which flew their first sorties in the high altitude bombing role on 8 July 1941. The type proved to be less than successful both in operations from Britain and in the Middle East. 7 survivors went to Coastal Command from Jan 1942 to assist crew training for later models in 220 and later 206 squadrons. Some operational sorties were flown with these by 220 squadron between 26th April and mid/late July 1942
United Air Lines received a Letter of Intent from USAAF Air Material Command on 24 Jan 1942 for its Cheyenne Modification Centre to modify 30 B-17E aircraft as Fortress IIA for the RAF. Subsequently the number was increased to 53 then 61 or 62 before the USAAF repossessed some (IIRC some of those turned up in the South Pacific). The first of an eventual 45 Fortress IIA was delivered to the RAF at Dorval, Canada on 19 March 1942, arriving at Prestwick, Scotland on 1st April for Coastal Command modifications.
220 squadron began to re-equip with the Fortress IIA in July 1942, flying its first operational sortie on the 24th.
206 squadron collected its first Fortress IIA on 20th July 1942, beginning conversion on 1 Aug and flying its first operational sortie on 19th Sept 1942.
I'm a bit puzzled about why the USAAF would be wanting Britain to convert British shells to bombs as they were already doing the same with US Coast artillery shells. IIRC (can't find the production records just now) that had started in 1941.I was reading the minutes of Air Staff meetings today, and the one from December 17th 1941, just 10 days after Pearl Harbor, really struck me. I've always been given the impression that the reaction to that attack was sudden and firm, yet in that meeting General Spaatz himself brought up this: "Item 10. Question of Christmas leave for [a] few days." I mean, this was even a thing that USAAC people were asking about, or expecting? Spaatz's answer surprised me even more: "All right if we can get hold of them" presumably in case they were needed back, in case, oh, I don't know, something important happened? There are all sorts of other little surprises in those Staff Meeting notes, like instead of jumping in as the Arsenal Of Democracy, America in fact was short on just about everything. "British at Cairo can give us 6 tons of ammunition, half to go on B-24 and arrangements to be made for carrying the other half." Or "Colonel Sorensen to check on practicality of using 15 inch shells for bombs. Also to convert British shells to bombs."
There are some interesting tidbits about specific aircraft as well. Again, General Spaatz:, 12/19/41 "Importance of Dive Bombers was stressed. Must develop and conduct research on possibility of converting light bombers of the 54 and 84 group programs into dive bombers. Also investigation of the practicability of using light bombers as night pursuit... Also taking into consideration attaching a light weight bomb on the P-40's and other pursuit for converting them into dive bombers." They'd have to be very shallow dives in order for the falling bombs to be sure of clearing the propellers. Speaking of P-40s, the same meeting said this: "There are no objections to sending P-39's to X to replace an equal number of P-40's as the P-40's are said to be inferior to certain new types of Jap[anese] pursuit ships." Interesting that they obviously considered P-39 to be a more competitive fighter than P-40. And "X" crops up throughout these meetings as some sensitive place, but since these notes were originally classified Secret, and apparently it was still necessary to be circumspect at that level, it's intriguing.
One last example, from the 12/29/41 meeting: "General Weaver reported that the guns made by Frigidaire will not shoot. He has informed General Arnold of this condition." Wonder what that was all about?
Here's one, from November 27, 1941: "A-2 get copies of Janes (Navies of the World) to the 20th Squadron at once." That squadron was in the Philippines and it wouldn't be long before it would be in active combat when the war broke out, but it's revealing that the best source of info on ship ID wasn't anything being produced by Army or Navy Intelligence, it was the same Jane's that any interested civilian could buy. In the few months before Pearl Harbor these meetings seemed heavily focused on the Philippines, talking about sending 2 steel mats for landing strips (5,000 ft long each) by ship for example, so clearly they were aware that war was on the horizon. Yet there was also mention of squabbles with the Navy over basing sites as well as roles and missions, among other trivial things. In fact the very next item in that 27 November meeting was "A-3 advise Strahm that the squadron that goes to Iceland will be watched and criticized by the Navy with the idea of getting across the point that this should be a Navy function."Great post! Allow me to encourage you to contribute more on these mind boggling minutes.
Where are the copies located?I was reading the minutes of Air Staff meetings today, and the one from December 17th 1941,
They're on a reel of microfilm that I got several years ago when doing research for our XP-67 book. I just didn't bother at that time to read all the other stuff on the reel, so now I'm having fun doing that.Where are the copies located?
I think you will find X = USSR.
We'd been providing aircraft to the UK for some time before this, so how was this still an issue?
That reminds me, I've been meaning to reread Ernest K Gann's "Fate is the Hunter" where he describes his experiences ferrying aircraft among other things. Interestingly, the movie by the same name has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the book, but both are classics of their own types.We'd get the planes to Canada, Ferry Command got them over the pond.