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Identifying new WW2 wreck off Pt Loma, San Diego
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Yes, this was also a diagram we saw that gave us more confidence in the TBM/F-1. It also helps differentiate the dash-1 from the dash-3.
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Thanks. It isn't a great model, I'm trying to make a better one but the visibility was really bad on both dives and building a model from photos in those conditions is challenging.
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FLYBOYJ
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After beating up the NA P-51 or T-28 theory, I agree, especially when seeing the wreck in 3D (great stuff). The engine mount really gives it away.
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Here is a "better" model of just the starboard wing. Note the gun, the square hole in the wing near the root. Also the exposed ribs might offer a clue. There is also an interesting "rod" sticking out onto the wing from the cockpit area.
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Unknown Airplane (stbd side) - Pt Loma - 3D model by Brett Eldridge (@beldridg)
Unknown Airplane (stbd side) - Pt Loma - 3D model by Brett Eldridge (@beldridg)
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There is a "scalloped" section missing from the top rear of the wing near the fuselage that appears to be the same shape that folds up and forward on the top of the outer wing section. This says to me Grumman unique wing folding geometry.
FLYBOYJ
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FLYBOYJ
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Now the big question - when did it crash?
SaparotRob
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We have 2-3 candidate airplanes based on research (war diaries, accident reports, etc). We are trying to narrow it down. However, I kinda doubt we will ever get 100% certainty based on the current evidence. We will likely need a bureau number (or equivalent) and given the state of the wreck, it is unlikely to find it.
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ARTESH
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I hope the crew were able to scape / eject and saved!
I did not see you mention to find bones / remains.
I did not see you mention to find bones / remains.
Snautzer01
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Well post the candidates sjeez
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We just wanted to get one last accident report which we got this afternoon and it matches the wreck in terms of location and situation (prop not bent - likely a stall).
I will finish my blog post with all the details, photos, etc and post it on Monday when I get back from my trip.
I'll post the link here once the story is posted.
Thanks everybody for your help.
We have found other airplanes and even a helicopter in the San Diego area and have others we are hunting down and hope to find and identify.
Regards,
Brett
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FLYBOYJ
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Glad we can help Brett!
Greg Boeser
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For the whole thread.
drgondog
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The T-28s modified for Air America/VNAF had R-2800s
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As promised, here is a link to the full article with all of the pictures and links to two different photogrammetry models.
We have more projects in the works so stay tuned.
If you sign up for the blog, you will get an email whenever I post (it is usually only 2-3 posts/month). I have a trip to Vis, Croatia and then Malta coming up so hopefully I'll be posting some more cool underwater airplane wreck photos.
Enjoy and feedback is welcome:
wreckedinmyrevo.com
Regards,
- brett
We have more projects in the works so stay tuned.
If you sign up for the blog, you will get an email whenever I post (it is usually only 2-3 posts/month). I have a trip to Vis, Croatia and then Malta coming up so hopefully I'll be posting some more cool underwater airplane wreck photos.
Enjoy and feedback is welcome:
“Full Stall Landing” — TBF-1C Avenger (Point Loma — 150 fsw)
Background We believe that we have located, dived and identified a new WW II TBF-1C Avenger (Bureau Number 24272) airplane wreck in Southern California off of Point Loma. A couple months ago, Tyler…
wreckedinmyrevo.com
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Huh?
drgondog
Major
Heresay. My father ran American Airmotive in the early 60s after retiring from USAF. They bid on the conversion to 1820's and I heard that Pacific Airmotive converted two T-28B, up-engined to R-2800 for French/VNAF trials. Have no more details or facts.
