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If It Can Fly, It Can Float!!! (2 Viewers)
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Fashion follows its own form.
Float yes:
Fly: Supposedly it did ...once...on 21 July 1939. However, on 10 December 1939, the programme was cancelled as the French Navy had decided to use land based aircraft instead.
Warspite63
Staff Sergeant
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- Dec 8, 2022
All I can say is 'Oooooooooooh!'
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Airframes
Benevolens Magister
The designer had a stutter. He said "I'm going to design a bi biplane " ................ got me coat !
Warspite63
Staff Sergeant
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Am pretty sure I 'designed' something like that .... when I was about 3......
Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
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IDK if
GTX
is Rex, if he whispers to his ears, is a patreon with early access or is it just a coincidence, but just fresh from the oven, Rex Hangar take of the Besson H-5:View: https://youtu.be/oKvQxPrbOgs?si=B5-qcma4sVPZ90b9
Nope, am not...IDK if
Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
- 2,116
- Feb 27, 2020
Maybe a patreon or both living downunder make you thinking alike (the water or or too much chemistry in the chemtrails)...Nope, am not...
The H-5 is just too bizarre and unkown plane to be a coincidence
Float and fly, yes.
See :
Loire-Nieuport 10 - Wikipedia
And this strange floatplane had a four-engines land version, the SNCAO 700, that was ready .to fly... two days before French collapse in June 1940.
SNCAO CAO.700 — avionslegendaires.net
SNCAO CAO.700, Prototype de bombardier lourd, construit par SNCAO, en 1940, pour France
www.avionslegendaires.net
IDK if
View: https://youtu.be/oKvQxPrbOgs?si=B5-qcma4sVPZ90b9
The Besson H-5 design was certainly quite unusual, but infinitely less daring than the Caproni Ca-60 :
Caproni Ca.60 - Wikipedia
which, with its tri-triplane configuration, established what could be called an Olympic record.
It's a shame Greg's hangar doesn't mention this Italian aircraft; comparing the two seaplanes would have been much more interesting than comparing the enormous Besson to a tiny two-seater from De Monge—which, incidentally, wasn't French, but Belgian.
This isn't the first time Greg's hangar has demonstrated a lack of historical knowledge that hardly aligns with its stated ambitions.
Returning to the Besson, while the result is certainly strange, it's worth noting that its fuselage is far more streamlined than many contemporary aircraft, even seaplanes ! We also notice Townsend-like rings around the radial engines, a design feature that remained unknown to most manufacturers in the mid-1920s.
Finally, it shouldn't be assumed that the engineers who designed these monsters were completely ignorant of aerodynamics. They were simply trapped by some outdated design flaws and hadn't yet learned to distinguish between essential and secondary considerations. At that time, projects from EVERY country in the world were a striking blend of sophistication and crude drawings.
Shortround6
Lieutenant General
Perhaps they remained unknown to most designers because they were not around the engines but in front of the them. Perhaps they served two or three purposes. The main one seems to have a streamline exhaust system. May also have helped streamline the valve system? actual streamlining of the engine itself???
Some Salmson aircraft that used pusher engines (like the ones in the back of the H-5) had the ring behind the engine compared to the airflow.
MiTasol
Captain
I agree that these were not Townsend rings but exhaust manifolds and similar to those that were used on Bristol engines of the day. There were several US engines with forward facing exhaust systems as well but the only ones I can remember at present used higher drag circular cross sectioned exhaust rings "identical" to those used on engines which exhausted to the rear.
Warspite63
Staff Sergeant
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- Dec 8, 2022
IDK if
View: https://youtu.be/oKvQxPrbOgs?si=B5-qcma4sVPZ90b9
Well, it IS AI ... if 'AI' stands for 'Amazingly Insane' ............
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