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There were definitely more ships to attack.Another interesting theory, Admiral. Possibly; had even more Italian vessels been sunk the impact would have been devastating for the Regia Marina.
It was a night raid, without pathfinder illumination. Robert Taylor shows us best.Were land installations hit at Taranto? A stronger raid, taking out that dry dock and a tank farm(?) might have even wider implications. The IJN studied Taranto and might have launched a third strike at Pearl Harbor if the Taranto strike had been more devastating.
The Italian Navy was still active into the Malta campaign, Battle of Matapan, etc. But yes, I see your point. I think we need to define a failed Taranto attack. Are ships not damaged, are the twenty Swordfish for the most part sunk, or did the RN call off the attack due to other issues?A more intriguing 'what if' might be what if the attack hadn't worked and the morale of the Italian Fleet been higher.
For the Italians the best result would have been the attack taking place with limited or no success and reasonably serious losses to the Swordfish. That would be a win to the Axis side, plus the knowledge that aircraft had been lost reducing the threat.The Italian Navy was still active into the Malta campaign, Battle of Matapan, etc. But yes, I see your point. I think we need to define a failed Taranto attack. Are ships not damaged, are the twenty Swordfish for the most part sunk, or did the RN call off the attack due to other issues?
What if the RN and FAA has trained for this very event with a mass carrier strike on Wilhelmshaven day one of the European war? Then it's repeated against the French and then Italians at Taranto. That should free up some flattops for the Pacific in 1941.September 3 The RAF launches its first raid of the war over Germany territory. Eighteen Handley Page Hampdens and nine Vickers Wellingtons are sent to attack the German warshipsmoored at the Wilhelmshaven naval base. However poor visibility prevents the bombers from finding any targets before nightfall so they return.[6]
September 4: The RAF launches another bombing operation against German shipping. Fourteen Wellingtons from 9 and 149 Squadrons attack Brunsbuttel and 15 Bristol Blenheims from 107 and 110 Squadrons raid Wilhelmshaven bay. Five Blenheims and three Vickers Wellingtons are shot down through a combination of Messerschmitt Bf 109s and flak. They become the first British aircraft casualties on the Western Front.[7]
I'm not sure how you reckon this would free up flattops. It's more likely to result in their loss. It's only 308nm from hull to wilhelmshaven so a raid launched from ashore would be better.Was there anyone senior in the interwar RN that advocated for a combined carrier strike force, akin to Japan's Kido Butai. Instead of RN carriers operating as single units and in ASW work; prewar strategy and preparations are to use the RN carriers to attack the enemy bases in multiship CBGs.
History shows us that the RAF was ineffective in attacking the German fleet in its bases. Per Wikipedia....What if the RN and FAA has trained for this very event with a mass carrier strike on Wilhelmshaven day one of the European war? Then it's repeated against the French and then Italians at Taranto. That should free up some flattops for the Pacific in 1941.
That was an IJA affair, and they hated the IJN beyond their necessity for transport. The Kido Butai was equipped and optimized for anti-ship ops, the Philippines isn't really its game. The preemptive strike is a foundation of the Japanese military plan, so I think the IJN's target has to be Pearl Harbour.I'm wondering had the Taranto raid failed, would the IJN still have attacked Pearl Harbor? Perhaps Admiral Yamamoto might have attacked the Philippines instead.
The RN was operating Courageous, Glorious and Furious as an integrated group prior to WWII.Was there anyone senior in the interwar RN that advocated for a combined carrier strike force, akin to Japan's Kido Butai. Instead of RN carriers operating as single units and in ASW work; prewar strategy and preparations are to use the RN carriers to attack the enemy bases in multiship CBGs.
History shows us that the RAF was ineffective in attacking the German fleet in its bases. Per Wikipedia....What if the RN and FAA has trained for this very event with a mass carrier strike on Wilhelmshaven day one of the European war? Then it's repeated against the French and then Italians at Taranto. That should free up some flattops for the Pacific in 1941.
True, and one of my favourite pics, with all three at Malta. This trio could have been planning coordinated CBG strikes against fleet bases, like Taranto. If each had its full CAG of forty-eight aircraft, that would put over sixty Swordfish plus about twenty Skuas over the Italian base that November. If a larger attack can be made in one wave, a surprise daylight option may be better than the two small waves' night attack.The RN was operating Courageous, Glorious and Furious as an integrated group prior to WWII.
It is a shame that HMS Glorious was so recently lost, but in Nov 1940 where was HMS Ark Royal? This ship with its large CAG was tailor made for the Taranto strike, but apparently Ark Royal was on convoy duty elsewhere in the Mediterranean? And where was HMS Furious, apparently still off Norway?Prior to WWII the plan was for a three-carrier strike on Taranto, but war-losses made this impracticable.
What if the RN and FAA has trained for this very event with a mass carrier strike on Wilhelmshaven day one of the European war?
Attacking ships in port is not a sure thing as the attacks on Brest against Scharnhorst and Gneisenau and the later Tirpitz attacks prove that.
I don't think either Britain or the U.S. would have had a "Kido Butai" until Japan showed the west just how it's done.