Italian fighters rock

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  1. Magister

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    Just thought I'd share that.

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    I love Macchi's.. 8)
     
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    Not a great fan, I'll take a Spitfire or a Dora anyday...
     
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    i'd take an Anton over a Dora ;)
     
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    I'd take an MC-205 over an Anton ;) but nothing over a Dora (maybe a Ta-152 or Spitfire but nothing else)
     
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    in terms of fighters i'd take a spit over absolutely anything...........
     
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    Those pics are great!
     
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    So would I.
     
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    and in terms of best looking bombers of all time it goes

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    No, it goes B-29, B-1, Z.1007.

    Id have a Fiat G.56 over anything...Im sure itd give a Dora a run for its money...

    Or even an SAI 403. Lightweight, small engine, heavy armament, immense performance.
     
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    Great pics!

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    G56, like u dont need 2 mass produce it if only im gonna fly it, i mean a G55 with a DB603!
     
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    The SAI 403 was an excellent fighter! Too bad it was not more heavily produced.

    Look at the Stats for it.

    Type: S.A.I. 403
    Function: fighter
    Year: 1943
    Crew: 1
    Engines: 1 * 750hp Isotta-Fraschini R.C.21/60
    Wing Span: 9.80m
    Length: 8.20m
    Height: 2.90m
    Wing Area: 14.46m2

    Empty Weight: 1983kg
    Max.Weight: 2640kg

    Speed: 648km/h (on a 750 hp engine!)

    Ceiling: Range: 937km

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    Why are the IMG tags not working? Is it me or is it a bug of some kind?

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    The dreaded 404. Page not found.


    Anyway, this is true about the Italians. Good looks and quality? Ah, what more could you need? (Decent numbers would be nice, though ;) )
     
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    The engine of the MC72, theFiat AS6, was the union of two AS5, that were already used in the Macchi C52 and Fiat C29 in the 1929 edition of the Schneider Cup.
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    What's impressive of the AS-5 is not his power (1600 hp at 3500 rpm at the maximum), but it's measures, it displaced only 25 litres and weight 460 Kg (For comparison, the DB 605 displaced 35.7 litres and weight 745 kg). But this refinement is also it's limit. Think to use this engine into a WWII fighter is like to use a F1 engine to move a tank (mainly cause engines of italian fighters had to use an higly corrosive 87 octane fuel).
    In fact, when Fiat decided to design an engine for the G55 (the unfortunate AS38) whose project was ready from 1939, they didn't start from the AS-5, but tried to do a completely new project.

    The sturdier Isotta Fraschini engines were better for daily use.
    At the 1929 edition of the Schneider Cup, the M-67 mounted an Isotta fraschini Asso 1000, that displaced 57 litres, and was capable of 1800 hp with a certain reliability and 2300 hp without it.
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    (in the third photo you can see both Asso 1000 and AS-6)
    With the M-67, Mario de Bernardi was the first man flying faster than 500 Km/h
    The Asso 1000 was the first of several good engines (of which I have already said in the "italian bombers" thread), and, ten years later, it was capable to develop 2000 hp continuously, but Regia Aeronautica requires radials, so, it was used as a naval engine.

    DogW
     
  20. DerAdlerIstGelandet

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    Nice pics. I am not a fan of Italian Fighters but those are some good pics. I too would take a Spit or a Fw-190D over an Italian fighter anyday.
     
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