Civettone
Tech Sergeant
a Macchi M.C.202 and a Lysander? It looks like a low wing Lysander?
Lysander?
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Definitely a Lysander, but is can see what you mean. That missing fuselage skin certainly has an airfoil shape to it.
Crimea_River
Marshal
Perhaps another fuselage or nacelle section laid beside it?
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Civettone
Tech Sergeant
Yes, it's an interesting optical illusion 
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I'm not sure that is a Lysander. The canopy looks off, looks like it has metal skin and the bottom of the tail/rudder is different
Crimea_River
Marshal
That crossed my mind as well but I couldn't readily come with an alternative.
fubar57
General
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
The Lysander canopy was clear throughout, and this is not unless it was painted.
The Tail trailing edge of the rudder as it goes down looks like it flares out backwards which I don't see in the pics I'm looking at.
Top of the rear fuselage looks like it slopes back towards the tail and I don't see any stretchered fabric
However the tail fin does look very close to one and you can almost make out the wing brackets on the top of the canopy (unless my eyes are deceiving me)
Maybe it just a low resolution photo playing tricks.
special ed
1st Sergeant
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However, the forward bead of the gunsight mounted on the cowl is exact.
Crimea_River
Marshal
I agree with you guys about the canopy. But what if there was a partial hulk in front of the Lysander shaped like this:
I can see your thinking, however what would it be resting upon?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
On the Lysander picture vikingBerserker posted (#8) , there's small airfoil shapes on the cowling. The wreck's cowling is smooth. Did Lizzies have that as a common variation between marks?
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fubar57
General
Post #7 Gentlemen which also shows the missing panel for the ballast weights in front of the tail section. Note the same shape in the drawings as well
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vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
Crimea_River
Marshal
That's what I said in post #3. Let's take it a step further. If this is a bone yard, then maybe its a Lysander tail section, an XXXX center section, and a YYYY engine/cowl in front of a ZZZZZ nacelle on its side.
Perhaps the OP can give us a source for the picture (he should have done that anyway) with any known details.
Perhaps the OP can give us a source for the picture (he should have done that anyway) with any known details.
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I think its just missing skin of the aircraft. If you look really close you can see the insides
special ed
1st Sergeant
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It is still a Lysander prop, spinner and gunsight on the cowling. Since it was left behind, the Italians may have covered the center canopy transparencies to provide shade for a restaurant.
Well we are just going to have to comb the Sahara and look for it.
