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And for the technology of the day, this was the state of the art and I think history shows it worked
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And for the technology of the day, this was the state of the art and I think history shows it worked"The best coordinated air defense system in the world"
It was a radar and a telephone.
Oh I actually agree with you.And for the technology of the day, this was the state of the art and I think history shows it worked
So Chain Home system was nothing more than a radar and telephone?.It was a radar and a telephone. Radar gave them current position, speed and direction they were headed so hopefully Spitfires and Hurricanes could get to the proper altitude in time.
I'm not going to drag the discussion that far off topic. It was leading edge technology and they did as well as anyone could expect the first time it was tried in battle. People can argue Big Wing vs smaller attacks if they want to but the British developed it, used it, it worked and they won the battle. It was a tongue in cheek comment. Let's move back to the regular discussion.So Chain Home system was nothing more than a radar and telephone?.
State of the art for it's time and aside from some balloon bombs that took the long way around, it was pretty much impenetrable!The USA had the "integrated hydro air defense system" for the whole war. Less educated people call them the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
I would think that fast climb would be even more important without Chain Home. With the engine power of the time and no constant speed props early on, I wouldn't think they would try to add more fuel, you would more than likely end up with a P40 situation if you did (slow climb)Without Chain Home, would the Spitfire and Hurricane be different, or replaced by aircraft with longer loiter times?
I would think that fast climb would be even more important without Chain Home. With the engine power of the time and no constant speed props early on, I wouldn't think they would try to add more fuel, you would more than likely end up with a P40 situation if you did (slow climb)
I was thinking that they would have to have standing patrols.
Radio Direction Finding, RDF (which is what it was called in 1940), only looked outwards. So it could determine when and where German raids were building up over France, and their course as they headed out over the Channel. Once they crossed the English coast, the role of tracking the German formations then fell to the Observer Corps as they proceeded inland. The Observer Corps also fed information to the Command and Control system. You omitted to mention this part of the system.C. "The best coordinated air defense system in the world" rolls off the tongue MUCH better than "a bunch of radar sites and several telephones"
You need 2 speed and or 2 stage engines to carry more fuel and still be competitive in combat which weren't available.Without Chain Home, would the Spitfire and Hurricane be different, or replaced by aircraft with longer loiter times?
You need superior technology to build a long range fighter that can defeat short ranged interceptors. Fancy superchargers give you performance at a wider range of altitudes.You need 2 speed and or 2 stage engines to carry more fuel and still be competitive in combat which weren't available.
No it wasnt, it wouldnt have worked if it was just that Miscellanea. Teleprinters were used to send details of a raid semi automatically to the filter rooms."The best coordinated air defense system in the world"
It was a radar and a telephone. Radar gave them current position, speed and direction they were headed so hopefully Spitfires and Hurricanes could get to the proper altitude in time. They didn't always make it. It wasn't the Death Star.
Pilots on both sides were probably close in training with a few experts and a lot of cannon fodder on both sides. Planes were equally well matched against each other with solid strengths and weaknesses on both sides.
I think that was the idea behind the "slip wing" hurricane.Without Chain Home, would the Spitfire and Hurricane be different, or replaced by aircraft with longer loiter times?
Chain Home actually did see "backwards" inland but not very far, the first thing an operator had to do was determine which side of the transmitters the signal was from.Radio Direction Finding, RDF (which is what it was called in 1940), only looked outwards. So it could determine when and where German raids were building up over France, and their course as they headed out over the Channel. Once they crossed the English coast, the role of tracking the German formations then fell to the Observer Corps as they proceeded inland. The Observer Corps also fed information to the Command and Control system. You omitted to mention this part of the system.
In the recent P-40 thread, the discussion about the merits of Bf 109, Spitfire, Hurricane, P-40 etc. was initiated. So I'd start the thread dedicated to this small yet very important time frame, about the best fighters in it. 2-engined fighters also qualify, so do the fighters from the whole world.