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The allies made 600,000 aircraft and lost almost half
Using the same 'argument' neither could the mustang protect their bombers
They never really tried.
By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.
Which they did.
They never really tried.
By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.
Which they did.
They never really tried.
By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.
Which they did.
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They never really tried.
By the time the P-51 had arrived in large numbers in the ETO the tactics had changed and the goal of the P-51s wasn't to defend the bombers, but to destroy the Luftwaffe.
Which they did.
Quoting Wiki will not earn you any points
No, I don't question statistics and they are not my own. 1079 spitfires and hurricanes were lost and 1/3 were shot down by 110s. The rest 2/3s by 109s. How do I question stats. It's simple math.
The RAF had more planes and were also producing at higher rates. What does any of that have to do anything with what Dowding said? You are trying to connect irrelevant things.
There are probably close to a dozen different figures in books and on the internet for Fighter Command losses in the BoB. What makes you think that your number of 1079 is the correct one?
Even it is, then not all losses would be to Me 110's and 109's, but also to bomber gunners and other operational losses.
At the same time, it is extremely difficult to decide who or what exactly shot down which enemy aircraft in combats involving large numbers of aircraft.
How many Hurricanes and Spitfires Me 110's have shot down in the BoB is really probably a qualified guess rather than an absolute fact.
Perhaps the exception, but I'd put good odds on a P-38 Lightning in a close dogfight against most single-engined fighters. Even the Zero, as seen at Operation Vengeance.A WW2-era twin-engined aircraft is never going to win a maneuver dogfight against a decent contemporary single-engined fighter.
The only important figure in the BoB was the number of operational LW bombers.
It was halted when they LW effectively ran out of operational bombers. The massed raids on London were actually all they had left and all they could do. So many Squadrons had been reduced to just a few aircraft. Goerings LW had been reduced to about 200 serviceable bombers in the region and he couldnt afford to lose any more.Bob....The Germans never stopped bombing.
So no more bombings. It all ended there. The Germans didn't just switch to night bombings. They said oh well..let's stop nowIt was halted when they LW effectively ran out of operational bombers. The massed raids on London were actually all they had left and all they could do. So many Squadrons had been reduced to just a few aircraft. Goerings LW had been reduced to about 200 serviceable bombers in the region and he couldnt afford to lose any more.
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.So no more bombings. It all ended there. The Germans didn't just switch to night bombings. They said oh well..let's stop now
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.
There was an incident in 1941 off the Dutch coast where a squadron of Spitfires carrying long range tanks was annihilated by Me 110s, so yes it could be quite effective, and their tail gunners caused problems for Hurricanes.The LW had 230 by 110 then. It lost 196. These bf 110 shot down 340 spitfires and hurricanes when the RAF had thousands of both. I cannot see how you guys can come to such conclusions
Yes, they switched to night bombings which allows you to reduce losses but not hit anything other than cities. The night bombing was never a prelude to invasion or even a serious attempt to force surrender.