Nonskimmer
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Well then, I guess my thoughts were totally out to lunch! ![Roll Eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Nothing new about that, I suppose.
Nothing new about that, I suppose.
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KraziKanuK said:Actually the P-80 and 262 did have a fly off. This was post war out of Wright Field. Al Boyd was the pilot in charge. The results (speed, RoC at different altitudes, turn radius) were so in favour of the 262 that the report was suppressed.
The M3 did not do that well in Korea vs the MiG15.
KraziKanuK said:"8:1 kill to loss ration vs. the Mig-15 according to Soviet figures"
Source required.
The lastest ratio is 2:1. Not that good considering most of the MiG pilots were Chinese and Korean.
delcyros said:The weapon layout of the Me-262 was against heavy bombers in general. A few were modified to carry six MK 108 /30mm. Others did carry four and 24 unguided missiles R4M. That high caliber armament is a similarity to the MiG-15. And the MiG did very well against B-29 with it´s armament. The poor ballistics of the MK 108 caused also concerns by OKL regarding it´s ability "vis a vis" in dogfights. They preferred the high velocity MK 103/30mm because of it´s very flat trajectory for late jet fighter projects (like Ho-229). I think this does also undeline the superiority of .50 as mentioned by Lunatic. Blinding the pilot in a Me-262 was also a problem when firing all four MK108/30mm. That is not good while in a hot dogfight with P-80´s... However, if hit by a Me-262, you can say good by.
Has anyone Informations about the "Fly off" between Me-262 and P-80? Is the report still closed for public or hard to get?