MV-22 Osprey
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davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
That thing better be good considering the incredible amount of time, resources and lives that went into the development of it.
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
She ought to be... the whole development process has been arduous, hit with many delays, and unfortunately cost several lives... as sadly new aircraft often do. I do believe that the benefits and new capabilities it will bring to the table will be considerable. I trust it will do the Battle Phrog justice...
I am not a big fan of it. She will become a good aircraft and I am sure that she will serve great but what gets me is I thinkt hey are trying to press her too quick into service. I dont think she is ready and I think many more people will be hurt or die before she is ready.
twoeagles
Senior Airman
This is one of those programs that Texas congressmen kept alive, and now
20 years in the making I pray it is going to be a success in the field. To be
honest, the gear box and transmission operation when one engine fails and
the other must pick up the slack without an immediate assymetric control
disaster is something that will always worry me, but then again, it is
something good Marine Aviators just take in stride.
20 years in the making I pray it is going to be a success in the field. To be
honest, the gear box and transmission operation when one engine fails and
the other must pick up the slack without an immediate assymetric control
disaster is something that will always worry me, but then again, it is
something good Marine Aviators just take in stride.
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
Lockheed Martin had to deal with something similar, maybe in reverse, with the V/STOL F35 when the engine must engage the front lift fan. Lots of horses has to be transfered rather quickly.
the lancaster kicks ass
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none of them problems with the harrier 
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
none of them problems with the harrier
yeah - the harrier just has a mishap rate 4 times that of conventional A/C
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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and remains one of the most remarkable aircraft in service anywhere in the world may great aircraft have issues like that, the -109 being a prime example.........
may great aircraft have issues like that, the -109 being a prime example.........
Twitch
Staff Sergeant
The Focke Angelis FA 269 Wesserflug was no doubt the inspiration for the Ospery. A Dr. Rohrbach conceived ideas on VTOL craft in 1933 and joined Wesserflug in 1935 where in 1938 Dipl. Ing. Simon began the P.1003 project which never reached fruition.
Um Lanc when the Harrier was being designed it had to overcome problems as well. It was not a British Engineering Marvel...
Also did you know the idea for the Harrier was actually from a Frenchman who brought his design to British.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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yes but that doesn't change the fact it's Rolls Royce with the experience in this area and it's British engineering that made it all work........
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
I don't know if that's exactly what the engineers had in mind - it's a relatively common and simple theory - tiltrotor. All that thing was was a wooden mock to my knowledge.
pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
Um and the fact that the British test pilots had to be sent to the United States so that they could get VTOL exeperience from the US's Bell X-14, which first flew in the 1950s to test VTOL capabilities.
The things learned from the X-14 were given to the British to help build the Harrier. It was knowledge that helped develop the Harriers capabilites.
A test squadron was set up in England made up of 10 test pilots from England, the US and Germany to test the P.1127 which led to the Harrier and decide what needed to be done to develop it.
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The major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army....
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
The major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army....
That and the fact that the MV-22 now has capabilities that it could never be dreamed of then...
Glider
Captain
One thing that would worry me about the Ospray and that would be its engine out performance. Its a heck of a big plane and the engine would produce a lot of drag.
Whilst I am sure they have it covered I wonder how marginal it would be as the wing isn't large enough to produce much lift compared to its size.
Whilst I am sure they have it covered I wonder how marginal it would be as the wing isn't large enough to produce much lift compared to its size.
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on an MV-22 NATOPS manual to solve some of these questions...
