How long till you start flying the beast, mkloby?
MV-22 Osprey
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pbfoot
1st Lieutenant
Point taken I've seen some of the mugs of your aircrew plastered up against the plexiglass and it wouldn't be nice to see so much ugly at the same time so giving them a pretty airplane equals it outThe major difference is that that thing is too damn Ugly to be used by the USMC, USN, USAF, or US Army....
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
I have to put in 70 hours in the TC-12 which should take till april, then another 70 or so in the TH-57, which will take until sep I'm guessing... then it's MV-22 time! I have some ways to go still.
those must have been air force guys... naval aviators have to be good looking! If we're not, we just put on the leather jacket and play top gun theme
MacArther
Staff Sergeant
Amen to that!!! Anyway, I have heard from the rumor mill that the Osprey is being considered for the gunship role, much like the C-130, although probably with less powerful armament. Is there any merit to this rumor? On another not, I have read that the Osprey can be equiped with a .50 cal somewhere on the plane, my question is where?
I have heard the same thing and read about Gunship versions to escort the unarmed transport versions. Not sure on the validity of this though.
MacArther
Staff Sergeant
It would be nice if it were true, because imagine the shock on some would be ambushers face when the "transports" land normally, or parachute thier cargo, while the gunships hover and check for hostiles.
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
.50cal ramp gun is in the work. The Air Force just began production of the CV-22 for use w/ special ops command. I'm not sure exactly what they'll be using them for though.
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
those must have been air force guys... naval aviators have to be good looking! If we're not, we just put on the leather jacket and play top gun theme
Being from Pensacola, I can tell you that my sister told me that she had never met a bad looking Naval aviator. She didn't say anything about Marines, however. Don't know if that means anything.
As a young guy growing up there, the competition was tough. Lost my first girlfriend to a Naval aviator. Marriage didn't last however. Serves her right! Actually worked out great for me, married a wonderful girl.
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
twoeagles
Senior Airman
As a young Student Naval Aviator 34 years ago, I married a different
girl every weekend. I'm sure things haven't changed! And Marine pilots most
certainly are Naval Aviators...It is their finest quality!
girl every weekend. I'm sure things haven't changed! And Marine pilots most
certainly are Naval Aviators...It is their finest quality!
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
34 years ago I was diving C-141s around the world, visiting places like Greenland, Iceland (P-3 Base), England, Sweden, Germany, Spain, Azores, Italy, Greece, Crypus, Lebenon, Jordan, Israel, Iran, Ethopia, Ivory Coast, Japan, Thailand, and of course dear Vietnam. Of course, one concrete runway is just like another. I never found a place nicer than the US. One of my warmest memories was hearing "MACXXXXX, this Boston Center, we have you in radar contact." I could relax, I knew the controllers knew what they were doing.
Two of my cousins married Navy pilots, one a chopper, and another a twin beech (old dude). Both were great guys, but we had typical discussions about the AF and Navy.
As an Air Force pilot I can say, gee, that's not saying much about the Marines. Actually, I was a big fan of the Navy and went to all their airshows and watch the Blue Angels practice overhead. If it hadn't been for a Navy Flight Surgeon not signing my flight physical, I would have been in the Navy. Worked out best for me though, no regrets. I got to fly two great planes, the T-38 and the C-141. Air Force life is a better life. Navy has better base locations, though.
Ah the old inter service rivalry. I love it!
Twitch
Staff Sergeant
I certainly wouldn't say the Fa 269 was a common design theory in 1933 when Dr. Heinrich Karl Johann Focke came up with it!
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
Not a design theory, as the design is complex, taking into account the power and weights needed for military service - but a common aviation theory that received much attention - taking off vertically, and flying like fixed wing.
Twitch
Staff Sergeant
True enough but the reason the Germans couldn't go forward then was that considerable development was needed for the special gearboxes, drives, pivoting mechanisms and prop pitch controls for landing and taking off. Too many other priorities in the Reich at the time.
davparlr
Senior Master Sergeant
True enough but the reason the Germans couldn't go forward then was that considerable development was needed for the special gearboxes, drives, pivoting mechanisms and prop pitch controls for landing and taking off. Too many other priorities in the Reich at the time.
Not to mention the unknown engineering design necessary to make the daggone thing work! Look what tons of computers and talented engineers had to do to make the V-22 work, well, maybe work. Ideas and concepts are dime a dozen and things like VTOL, flying wings and others look good and maybe even be modeled or demonstrated, but turning them into a fighting and working machine is a whole different story.
Got to go with dave on this one. I dont think the Germans could have gotten it going by 1945. They had to many priorities and look how long the US has been working on the V-22 and how many problems they have had with it and how many have died in the process. It was not a project to be had during the time of WW2.
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mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
I think first flight was 1989!
Matt308
Glock Perfection
Thought you guys might want to see this. Rather interesting. According to this chart only the development lifecycle has been longer. As I recall (at least a few years ago), a Class A is $1M or more damage.
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