Need Info On a Couple of 110 Gruppen

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  1. Catch22

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    Hello! My dad purchased the Revell 1/32 Bf 110C-4/C-4/B for a steal, and he wanted me to find some alternate schemes for it, but I figured he should probably at least stick to the units that are there, but I cannot find any info on either of them.

    The Gruppen are:

    3./ZG 26

    2./EGr 210

    I'm embarassed to say I don't even know what an EGr is! :oops:

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Hi Catch22,

    I've tried to find more Bf110C profiles but without a success.Here you are these I've found of 3./ZG26 and 2./EGr210.The last one shows the a/c of I./ZG26 but it seems that the plane had been serving in 3./Zg26 before it was used by I./ZG26.

    BTW. EGr stands for Erprobungsgruppe.

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    Thank you very much my friend! I knew you would come through.
     
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    Wurger, you mean ZG, ja? :D
     
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    Ah... ja,ja. Das ist typo.
    I just was reading a book about JG26 and in meantime looking for these profiles.
    Sorry friends. :oops:
     
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    No prob. I have done that myself! :lol:
     
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    Some of that German stuff can be VERY confusing. Don't even ask me how Geschwader Structure works...
     
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    Its actually very easy. A Geschwader (like JG 1) held in the beginning of the war 3 Gruppen and towards the end 4 Gruppen of aircraft, identified by Roman numerals - i.e. I, II, III, IV (IV./JG 1). Each Gruppe was broken down into staffels, usually 4 but possibly more, and they were identified by conventional numerals, i.e. 1, 2, 3, etc. (8./JG 1). As to the number of aircraft, I don't have that info on hand but I believe there was about 34 aircraft in each Gruppen. From the staffel you go into schwarms and rotten.

    One other addition. Each Geschwader and Gruppe had a command flight or Stab which the Commander and his unit flew - normally only a few aircraft (written like Stab I./JG 1).

    Each type of air unit had an abbreviation for its purpose. So a Zestroergeschwader - or Destroyer Squadron - would be written as ZG.

    So....
    Stab I./JG 1 would be

    The Command flight of the I Gruppe of Jagdgeschwader 1.

    or

    you were looking for 3./ZG 26

    that would be the Third Staffel of Zerstorergeschwader 26 ( which by the way would be part of I Gruppe - I./ZG 26 :D )

    I'm sure Wurger or others can correct some of the mistakes I've made - and I'm sure I have :oops: - but this is the basics.

    Now the markings on the planes to distinguish this can be confusing!!
     
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    Yeah those alpha-numeric codes, really are a handful to work out?
     
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    Yea it true Wayne.

    There is a shot I have found in Wikipedia site.I hope italso will help.
     

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    There we go. That's by far the simplest I've seen.
     
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    The Fighter geschwadern are much easier to work out, being a coloured number system, with or without a symbol on the rear fuselage and more importantly easier to understand as Wurger has laid out.

    The Bomber style codes, well, they're just a more complicated system and you really need a chart of some sort to identify what belongs where?

    Check out the following link to see what I mean...

    luftwaffe_codes
     
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