Ah, but in my aquadome, my cats and I have a cunning plan for a very different Hawker fighter with different usage.
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Ah, but in my aquadome, my cats and I have a cunning plan for a very different Hawker fighter with different usage.Using American is no problem. Unless it's a P-38 or P-39...errr ok relying on America is a problem!
Asking the British aviation industry to build a 350mph fighter is not going to be an easy task if a speciation was sent in 1936 or 37. The Hawker fighters are due and 2,000bhp is the cheese. And even if there is new designs out there what stopping them been hot garbage anyways.
So it's going to be Hurricanes all the way. With P-40 to bulk the numbers. Is this a bad thing? In some theatres that would be plenty. UK is no longer under threat of invasion after Barbarossa so Sopwith Camels would be enough.
The Hawker fighters will eventually appear and the USAAC will bring the thunder so no Spitfire is not fatal.
Not saying chasing Me 109F in a Hurricane is easy but it can be done.
The original Griffon Spitfire, the IV/XX, was based on the Spitfire Mk III airframe.
The first 55 of the 100 production Spitfire XIIs were based on the Spitfire Mk V, complete with fixed tail wheel and lacking the wing fuel tanks.
Using American is no problem. Unless it's a P-38 or P-39...errr ok relying on America is a problem!
Asking the British aviation industry to build a 350mph fighter is not going to be an easy task if a speciation was sent in 1936 or 37. The Hawker fighters are due and 2,000bhp is the cheese. And even if there is new designs out there what stopping them been hot garbage anyways.
So it's going to be Hurricanes all the way. With P-40 to bulk the numbers. Is this a bad thing? In some theatres that would be plenty. UK is no longer under threat of invasion after Barbarossa so Sopwith Camels would be enough.
The Hawker fighters will eventually appear and the USAAC will bring the thunder so no Spitfire is not fatal.
Not saying chasing Me 109F in a Hurricane is easy but it can be done.
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Perhaps the Hurricane can be fixed, with a new more slender wing. The extra thickness did nothing except add drag. I doubt a wing 20% slimmer had a CLmax any worse.
Mustang deal was signed before BoB, so the Mustang will be there.
You have the engine development story wrong, the Merlin 60 was designed for Wellington, not for Spitfire.
There were approx. 150 Mustang MkIs in UK at the end of December 1941, Merlin mustangs were arriving in mid 1943, their first job was advanced pilot training for the pilots who arrived with them.
I know it was for the Wellington, but without the Spit it has no home so doesn't get made
Better than nothing.Excellent, what the RAF really needs before the second half of 1943 arrives are P40's and P51's that are only good below 20,000ft and Hurricanes that are totally outclassed above it.
Was there a Super Hurricane and whats the score with that if there was?
Camm did do a proposal for a Griffon Hurricane, which miraculously was predicted to have better performance than the Griffon Spitfire proposal!
Better than nothing.
Yep.You'd want to teach your pilots how to evade the bounce from above, they will be getting lots of them.
The Defiant was also in service 1 year before the Hurricane.
Yep.
Spitfire was bounced by 109 during battle of Britain so it's all good.
As long as you can shoot down the bombers that's all that matters.
Not saying chasing Me 109F in a Hurricane is easy but it can be done.
Likewise plenty of 109's were bounced in return, how are you going to intercept bombers with P40's?, by the time they struggle to 20,000ft the bombers have flown half way back to France, even the Hurricane failed to catch them at times. No allied fighter could fill the Spits role until the first merlin engined Mustangs arrived.
News to the British.
First flight by Hurricane K5083 Nov 6th 1935.
First flight by Defiant K8310 Aug11th 1937.
Dec 1938 saw 10 squadrons with production Hurricanes, 5 squadrons were considered operational.
Dec 1939 saw the first production Defiants being issued to No 264 squadron. Not sure when it was fully equipped or declared operational.
The Defiant flew 1.25 years after Spitfire first flew and entered service 1.25 years after the Spitfire, slightly before the Battle of Britain. This proves that had the Spitfire not existed there was time to get another advanced fighter in service. It seemed to take 2.25 years to get from first flight to service.