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In what way? That my computer probably has more processing power than a huge building?Glider said:Am I the only one who thinks of Supercomputers in those days as more than a little amusing.
More like a combination of impressive, awe-inspiring, or frightening depending on how designed/used.michaelmaltby said:... and there's nothing amusing about computing today
Both really.In what way? That my computer probably has more processing power than a huge building?
More like a combination of impressive, awe-inspiring, or frightening depending on how designed/used.
It's all about in what era you ask the question. The next time you fly into SYR Hancock International, note the derelict cube shaped building just NW of the main runway intersection. Looks like a 1 story cube nestled up against a 3 story cube.All of us have far more computer power in our phones that a super computer of the time, so what is your definition of Super Computer?
I don't know the exact number, but bear in mind, our defense thinking was guided by veterans of 1000 plane raids in ETO. This had to have influenced their ideas. After the collapse we discovered the TU4 didn't have the range or payload we had attributed to it. With no air-to-air refueling capability, even a one way suicide mission couldn't reach the American Midland.How many did we think they had?
This was before they had nuclear bombs?I don't know the exact number, but bear in mind, our defense thinking was guided by veterans of 1000 plane raids in ETO.
I thought they could make Chicago...With no air-to-air refueling capability, even a one way suicide mission couldn't reach the American Midland.
I thought the plane was heavier than the B-29...From 1958....
Wake up, man! The ETO was over months before the first A bomb. But the USAF leadership was well aware of the Soviet doctrine of "P for plenty".This was before they had nuclear bombs?
On the last few fumes in the tanks, with a deadstick glide attack, maybe. But consider Chi Town is near the northern border of US. What about all those bases and factories in the American heartland south of there? Remember your great circle routes? The only way they could hope to reach us was "over the top".I thought they could make Chicago...
A little heavier, a little less horsepower, a little thirstier, it all adds up to "not quite" a B-29. (And certainly not a B-50) It was, however a formidable interceptor target with its 23MM cannon turrets.I thought the plane was heavier than the B-29...
Didn't know that...XBe02Drvr said:On the last few fumes in the tanks, with a deadstick glide attack, maybe.
It can sting good...It was, however a formidable interceptor target with its 23MM cannon turrets.
What does "The test system is the same as the live" mean?I used to be an IT Programme Manager and my speciality was projects that had either gone wrong, or were is severe danger of going wrong and the two most common statements I used to get when first reviewing a project were:-
i) It shouldn't do that
ii) The test system is the same as the live
What does "The test system is the same as the live" mean?
After the collapse we discovered the TU4 didn't have the range or payload we had attributed to it. With no air-to-air refueling capability, even a one way suicide mission couldn't reach the American Midland.
see, we wanted to look like we were the good guys, the Russians didn't care if they looked like ogres)
They seemed more willing to brazenly kill people (assassinations), whereas we seemed to go to greater lengths to conceal the act. That said, the Russians could conceal it as good as anybody if they felt it could have catastrophic consequences.That's not true at all.
Just to be clear the USSR had a doctrine that was defensive and relied on superior numbers?The Soviets knew they couldn't match US technology advances, but quantity and a defensive military doctrine kept the US and the West at bay in their eyes.
They definitely had a very high ratio of spies/population and were shockingly ruthless. I didn't know they originated from the SS/SD and the K-5 intel organization of the NKVD.One thing though, the KGB as an intelligence organisation had nothing on the Stasi.
I'm amazed he managed to survive Stalin, the East German government (ruthless regimes sometimes purge their intelligence chiefs every few years to limit their power), and the fall of the Berlin Wall (I could imagine a lot of East German citizens would have wanted to mete out the most painful of punishments to him).The last head of the Stasi, Erich Mielke, a long-time German commie learned his trade through the pre-ww2 German communists, then the NKVD and eventually through the Stasi to become its head
That sounds like a good thing. The test environment and live environment are the same...Programmes are developed and tested in a test environment which is nearly always described as being ' the same as the live'
Wait, so they had all the data going into the test system instead of the live one? I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not an expert on computers...So we tested to see if the test system would handle the loads involved in running live production volumes, found that by beefing up the servers and infrastructure they did overnight going 'live' on the test system.
That sounds like a good thing. The test environment and live environment are the same..
Look at it another way. There were three environments, a) Development, b) Test c) Production.
Wait, so they had all the data going into the test system instead of the live one? I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm not an expert on computers...
you got itSo basically you were saying that the two most common claims you heard were
- It shouldn't do that
- It's the same as the live (it isn't)?
Both really.
a) All of us have far more computer power in our phones that a super computer of the time, so what is your definition of Super Computer
b) Its not the machine its the ridiculous belief people have in the infallibility of computers. I used to be an IT Programme Manager and my speciality was projects that had either gone wrong, or were is severe danger of going wrong and the two most common statements I used to get when first reviewing a project were:-
i) It shouldn't do that
ii) The test system is the same as the live
With this bitter experience I always smile when someone says Supercomputer
In reality the fear of being left behind and becoming less relevant drove the Soviet Union - it's a policy that drives modern Russia today.