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Sounds like your grandmother and I would understand eachother perfectly. My childtime language was Gronings, a dutch version of Plat Deutch. We did not even notice when crossing the border. The language in Ost Friesland was exactly the same.
So it could be that some of these dialects played a role in the London language, as the Holmes stories alll take place in London? Yorkshire is quite some distance away, I believe?
It's actually similar to Germanic languages. "Ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fiveteen, sixteen" is in Dutch: "tien, elf, twaalf, dertien, veertien, vijftien, zestien", very similar.
Marcel. I have a good German friend who was born an lived until his twenties 10Km from the border with The Netherlands when he speaks his plat he sounds like a Dutchman speaking the wrong words, it sounds Dutch but isnt. Plat isn't a language as such but a huge family of dialects which change from village to village. In lower Saxony where I worked some words or pronunciations identified people as from a particular town or village. Hoch Deutsch is the standardised language and is a little more uniform across Germany but that doesn't mean I understand a word of what a guy from Bayern says. Don't misunderstand what I say, my Grandmother spoke a dialect with strong Plat influence, but it was English, just a little comical to those who didn't understand it. In Lower Saxony when the old boys and their ladies are chatting in plat at a distance, close enough to hear but not close enough to understand the words they sound just like my gran and her mates did. She would habitually put a verb at the end of a sentence and when that verb was "doubt" it didn't mean doubt it meant "that is what I truly believe".
English is a mix, there is a strong Germanic influence, English is officially a Germanic language and the Brits are referred to as "Anglo Saxons" for a good reason, however there are other influences even in numbers. First place is first and clearly comes from the German erste but second clearly comes from the Italian secundo. Yorkshire is about 300km from London but the Germanic roots to English cover the whole of the UK and Ireland it is perhaps stronger in Scotland than in England. Laughably the slang name for a hard on is the same in Ireland as Germany (latt?). Konan Doyle wrote most of his Sherlock Holmes works before 1914, it would be interesting to see if his use of such profoundly Germanic words/syntax stopped when the war started.
Hmm, we'll see when I reach the end of the seriesMarcel. I have a good German friend who was born an lived until his twenties 10Km from the border with The Netherlands when he speaks his plat he sounds like a Dutchman speaking the wrong words, it sounds Dutch but isnt. Plat isn't a language as such but a huge family of dialects which change from village to village. In lower Saxony where I worked some words or pronunciations identified people as from a particular town or village. Hoch Deutsch is the standardised language and is a little more uniform across Germany but that doesn't mean I understand a word of what a guy from Bayern says. Don't misunderstand what I say, my Grandmother spoke a dialect with strong Plat influence, but it was English, just a little comical to those who didn't understand it. In Lower Saxony when the old boys and their ladies are chatting in plat at a distance, close enough to hear but not close enough to understand the words they sound just like my gran and her mates did. She would habitually put a verb at the end of a sentence and when that verb was "doubt" it didn't mean doubt it meant "that is what I truly believe".
English is a mix, there is a strong Germanic influence, English is officially a Germanic language and the Brits are referred to as "Anglo Saxons" for a good reason, however there are other influences even in numbers. First place is first and clearly comes from the German erste but second clearly comes from the Italian secundo. Yorkshire is about 300km from London but the Germanic roots to English cover the whole of the UK and Ireland it is perhaps stronger in Scotland than in England. Laughably the slang name for a hard on is the same in Ireland as Germany (latt?). Konan Doyle wrote most of his Sherlock Holmes works before 1914, it would be interesting to see if his use of such profoundly Germanic words/syntax stopped when the war started.
Hmm, we'll see when I reach the end of the series
....But I noticed that understanding both German and English come quite naturally to me, I guess the German comes from the similarity with Dutch.
Yes... and no... most major dictionaries allow for both spellings, color and colour, as well as Center and Centre. The language is still evolving and even French is although the government spends a great deal of time and money trying to prevent that. Depending on whom you ask neither, or both spellings are correct.Centre is how it is spelled. Yes it's spelling is rooted in French as is colour but it is how these words are properly spelled...in English.
Dear me whatever is happening in the colonies? Are the British and especially the English being held responsible for courgettes and aubergines, we have none at all spelling, looks, taste the whole lot is a continental plot.?Yea them Britishers think they invented the blimey language:
Took a long time to figure out: , COURGETTE, AUBERGINE,
Then who knew that the FIRST FLOOR was actually UP one flight of stair.
AFTER LEAVING THE PUB JAN WAS PISSED. Thought he was angry.
How does your maths work out there in colony land. If I am on the first floor in a hotel entrance and floor minus 1 in the cellar or garage your number system has no "zero" in it.
Yup, because you are counting real objects and you do not count what you do not have, that is why the very concept of zero as a digit took a long time to develop (7th century), i.e. "how can nothing be something?". Roman Numerals, eg., derived from tally sticks did not have a zero because you do not tally what you do not have. A building cannot have NO (zero) floors but it can have ONE floor, i.e., the FIRST floor or level.
If you go below that level, i.e. the level that is ON the ground, you are in the building's BASEMENT except in Jolly Olde where the term BASEMENT applies only when that space is habitable with windows and often its own entrance, sans windows and entrance it becomes a CELLAR
we wouldn't have 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour and 24 hours in a day.