Overflight - ID needed

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Ok guys, here's a challenge for you!

Back on the afternoon of 24 November, I heard the sound of radial engines approaching the shop. I finally saw these two airplanes and ran through the shop to my car out back, grabbed my camera and got off a few pix. Problem is, I had my 18-55 lens, so these shots are as good as it gets, they were at least 2,500 feet up. They've been cropped from the original, but not enlarged.

And sadly, by the time I was able to get the camera out and into action, they were already passed, so this is the best angle I was able to get.

The second aircraft sure looks like a F4F (or FM-2) Wildcat...the leader (blue one) looks like a Hellcat and like I said, both had radial engines...

Also, the second one was just a short distance behind the blue a/c, so the second one (Wildcat?) is actually a little smaller, as shown in the photo.
 

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I think the first one is a Beech T-34. Looks that way anyway.

Second one looks like a Piper 160 or so. Maybe even an old 140.

But the radial engine part stumps me cause the airframes....first one could be a Yak 18.
 
my first impressions were it was a comanche or cherokee...perhaps even an arrow. but think it is a cherokee. the wing designs on the arrow and comanche are tapered.
 

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Maybe this can help a little bit.
 

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