the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
there was a rather convincing post a while ago that clearly made the mossie the winner.................
P-38 or Mosquito?
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
The winner of what??? Best fighter of the 2?? Best night-fighter??? Best ground strafer??? Best fighter-bomber???
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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it rightly made the mossie the better combat aircraft..............
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cheddar cheese
Major General
but the poll is clearly stating that the P-38 was better.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
i think we're all guilty of posting in that poll more than once....................
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
*GASPS*
Shame on u for posting twice....
Shame on u for posting twice....
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
we've all done it.....................
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I havent even tried to... Yet...
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cheddar cheese
Major General
you cant, it logs your IP and it doesnt let you 
i couldnt vote on anything with sagaris because it knew my IP
i couldnt vote on anything with sagaris because it knew my IP
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
here's the trick, don't do it when you're signed in..................
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
i've actually only done it a few times, and don't challenge my authority lol................
Nah, I wouldn't challenge your authority. I'm just one of those dang ignorant Yanks anyway....
Hey Lanc, I do have to commend you for your stout defense of Brit aircraft. Lots of Americans appreciate what the UK has been doing to help us in Iraq today and we remember WWII as a round-the-clock cooperation between the US and UK. It sure as heck wasn't the French who won that war....
Maybe we can agree on that?
Hey Lanc, I do have to commend you for your stout defense of Brit aircraft. Lots of Americans appreciate what the UK has been doing to help us in Iraq today and we remember WWII as a round-the-clock cooperation between the US and UK. It sure as heck wasn't the French who won that war....
Maybe we can agree on that?
Lightning Guy
Master Sergeant
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- Apr 29, 2004
I would agree with that.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I think everyone except the French would agree with that....
Lightning Guy
Master Sergeant
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- Apr 29, 2004
But after a very short argument they would probably capitulate and agree with you 
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Yea they do change sides rather easily dont they??? God I hated Paris.... Hated it more than anywhere else I've been...
Cannes was great... Toulon was really bad... But Paris????
Jesus the French suck ass....
Cannes was great... Toulon was really bad... But Paris????
Jesus the French suck ass....
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
and i think that's the first time i've been commended for my love of british aircraft.....................
evangilder
"Shooter"
HI all,
I am going to abstain from voting because I am giving a presentation on the P-38 Lightning tomorrow at the WWII aviation museum where I volunteer. I will state for the record that I feel both planes had strong multi-role capabilities.
There are certainly reports of P-38s turning inside of smaller enemy fighters, but I can guarantee that they were the J version or later. It wasn't until the J version that they had that kind of manueverability because of the addition of dive flaps and eletrical aileron controls. Even then, it took a skilled pilot to pull off that kind of manuevering. While that gave them a better chance in the low to medium altitude fights, the preferred style was still to attack from above and then climb up again.
There were many versions of both aircraft that made them versatile and powerful. What might be an interesting comparison would be to compare the two prototypes "out of the box" with no modifications.
If any of you are in the Southern California area and would like to see the presentation, drop me an e-mail and I can give you directions.
PICTURE REQUEST: If any of you have pictures of General Stratemeyers P-38 VIP transport that was modified at the Hindustan aircraft factory, PLEASE let me know.
I am going to abstain from voting because I am giving a presentation on the P-38 Lightning tomorrow at the WWII aviation museum where I volunteer. I will state for the record that I feel both planes had strong multi-role capabilities.
There are certainly reports of P-38s turning inside of smaller enemy fighters, but I can guarantee that they were the J version or later. It wasn't until the J version that they had that kind of manueverability because of the addition of dive flaps and eletrical aileron controls. Even then, it took a skilled pilot to pull off that kind of manuevering. While that gave them a better chance in the low to medium altitude fights, the preferred style was still to attack from above and then climb up again.
There were many versions of both aircraft that made them versatile and powerful. What might be an interesting comparison would be to compare the two prototypes "out of the box" with no modifications.
If any of you are in the Southern California area and would like to see the presentation, drop me an e-mail and I can give you directions.
PICTURE REQUEST: If any of you have pictures of General Stratemeyers P-38 VIP transport that was modified at the Hindustan aircraft factory, PLEASE let me know.
Lightning Guy
Master Sergeant
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The P-38 turned very well even before the addition of the dive flaps and the power boosted ailerons. According to historian Martin Caiden, "Without combat flasp the P-38 can easily turn inside the Me-109G; with use of these flaps the odds get even better for the Lightning jock." Of course the J-25 and L models were even better often but the Luftwaffe pilots flying 109s against F and G model Lightnings admitted the P-38 could turn inside them.
Also, in 1942 a P-38F (without combat flaps) was evaluated against the P-39D, P-40F, P-47D, and P-51. Accoring to the official reports, "The P-38F has an equal or shorter radius of turn."
Also, in 1942 a P-38F (without combat flaps) was evaluated against the P-39D, P-40F, P-47D, and P-51. Accoring to the official reports, "The P-38F has an equal or shorter radius of turn."
