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Thats what happens when you have a land front, it was the same in the West after D Day, neither the Typhoon or Tempest were optimised for high altitude.The Russians somehow managed to get the Germans to fight at low to modest altitudes, where the P-39 wasn't disadvantaged. And the Russians used the advantages of the P-39, such as up close and personal with that 37mm cannon, decent low altitude speed and a decent turn radius. I'm sure some Germans knew to stay away from their opponents strengths, but maybe an overly enthusiastic command structure ordered their pilots to in affect throw away their planes' advantages.
The Yak-9 was used in Korea. The P-39 was notable in its absence. I think that speaks to Soviet opinions on the two planes.
After 5-6 years of not importing of the required spare parts, the appearance of P-39s in Korean war under the red star would've been a huge surprise.
After 5-6 years of not importing of the required spare parts, the appearance of P-39s in Korean war under the red star would've been a huge surprise.
They were a bit busy reverse engineering B-29s and RR jets. Of all the things they were given or acquired WTF would they build their own P-39?I'd say yes and no - IIRC the last P-39 was delivered to the Soviet Union in July, 1945. It would be a matter of how many units were in airworthy at the end of hostilities, spare parts available and aircraft that could have been used for cannibalization. Additionally I wouldn't put it past the Soviets to reverse engineer many parts they were no longer able to get from Bell.
Same for the P-63s they received.
They were a bit busy reverse engineering B-29s and RR jets. Of all the things they were given or acquired WTF would they build their own P-39?
I remember reading about a flight of Spitfires encountering a flight of Yak-9s over Berlin and they had a sort of mock combat climbing turn competition. The Spitfire pilot was impressed with the Yak.idk was it worse cause performance-wise it was better
They don't have to build a complete airframe, just parts needed to keep the fleet somewhat in tact. But I'm sure they had plenty of airframes available
I remember reading about a flight of Spitfires encountering a flight of Yak-9s over Berlin and they had a sort of mock combat climbing turn competition. The Spitfire pilot was impressed with the Yak.
What I read was definitely the dog days of the war over Berlin because included in the narrative was the Russians strafing what was basically a dead city of ruins, the Yaks tried to get on the tail of the Spitfires (I cant remember if it was IX or XIV versions) and then the "fun" started.IIRC in 1944 there was a VVS-KA squadron equipped with Yak-9Ds at Bari? to give support to Yugoslav partisans/to escort Soviet transport planes which flew supplies to Yugoslav partisans. At same time there were also Spitfires based there and there were some mock combats or Spit pilots test flied Yaks and Soviet pilots Spits. I read the story decades ago and details have slipped out from my brain.
just the normal yak 9 and the p-39 n-0What Yak-9 version? What P-39 version? Yak-9M and Yak-9DD were worst, the later Yak-9Us maybe the best version of Yak-9 serving in WW2, Yak-9P was the Korean War version IIRC, in essence it was a late Yak-9U with metal wings.
Ps. and the quality of mixed construction Yaks varied more than that of P-39s or other western fighter planes, many of them were built in very difficult conditions.
i said yak 9 for a reasonPart of the trouble with flight sims is they can't model every variation of aircraft.
You say the have the P-39N,
Now which Yak-9?
Yak-9
Yak-9T
Yak-9D
Yak-9 with M-106 engine
Yak-9P
Yak-9TK
and that is just the Yaks that showed up in 1943.
Six more Yak-9s showed up in 1944 and some in 1945.
Performance in sims is often approximate and sometimes "tweaked" to make the "Game" more playable, or to appeal to a larger audience.
Not that they are going to tell the customers that on the box
As has been noted, the guns are often way simplified to make game design easier.
just the normal yak 9 and the p-39 n-0
You want the P-39 to be the best then? Comparing the best P-39 to the worst Yak-9, that isnt how the Russians did things.i said yak 9 for a reason
What I read was definitely the dog days of the war over Berlin because included in the narrative was the Russians strafing what was basically a dead city of ruins, the Yaks tried to get on the tail of the Spitfires (I cant remember if it was IX or XIV versions) and then the "fun" started.
Yak-9 was one of the better fighters of WWII. It was fast and maneuverable at low-to-medium altitudes, was available in numbers, and was reliable.
It had no CG problem as the P-39 did when the ammunition was empty, and was conventional gear, which was WAY better suited to Soviet airfields, and was more maneuverable in general.
It had almost twice the range of a P-39 on internal fuel. What's not to like about the Yak-9?