Panzer graveyard in Bulgaria

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  1. Parmigiano

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    Thats pretty cool wonder if you can look inside them?
     
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    Cool.....

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    Very cool. Why did I not know about this when I was in Bulgaria???
     
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    I saw the on in Sofia when I was there.
     
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    >>According to experts quoted by the 24 Hours daily newspaper, the tanks were unfit for combat, but valued on the antiquities market at up to €50,000 (US$72,000).

    That sounds reasonable to me.. maybe i'll take out a second mortgage and put a hetzer on my lawn...

    .... but it would probably cost a million to transport it anywhere!


    I hope the thieves didnt do any damage when they were dismantled.

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    Very cool 8)

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    Very cool pics, thanks Parmigiano.
     
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    Can't be a Tiger II; you're right, the barrel's too short. Also, it's not "stepped", as the two-piece KwK 43 L/71 is; nor is there a muzzle brake on the end (though that could've been removed; they're just threaded on the end, so it could've been removed before it got "rusted" on).

    It's really quite sad to see these "works of art" rusting away in a foreign country; I'm quite surprised enthusiasts and collectors haven't already tried to purchase these "wrecks" from the Bulagrian government. Maybe they will now.
     
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    Panther maybe....seem to angled armor on the sides etc...
     
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    very very cool stuff, it is a shame there there and not in a muesum somewhere
     
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    I agree with SoD, can't be a Tigre II . Not a Panther either, the turret is too big and the gun too thick and w/o muzzle brake.

    Perhaps the last pic has nothing to do with the others: the source is a 'generic' newspaper and it may be that they just added 'a nice tank pic' to the original serie.
    The shape in effect reminds of a more modern tank than a wwII panzer.
     
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    Bulgaria actually has some pretty strict antiquity laws. I highly doubt that they would just let them go to the highest bidder.
     
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    It's not a tiger II or a panther. It's a jadgtiger. A 128 mm gun mounted on the tiger II chassis. Hope this helps
     

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    # 3 is a JagdPanzer IV with the L48 75mm gun.

    tom
     
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    Parmigiano wrote in February:

    "Apparently an attraction for tourists, I recognized a Hetzer, a jagdpanzer IV and the last picture could be a Tigre 2 - Henschel turret (barrel seems too short but it may be the angle)"

    Where is Bulgaria were these located?

    Thank you,

    Mike
     
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    Nr:1 is a very early Jagdpanzer IV
    Nr:2 is a T34-85 turret
    Nr:3 is a dug down Pz IV
    Nr:4 is the same as pict. 1
    Nr:5 is four Pz IVs, two Stug IIIs and one Pz IV with a Soviet ZIS 3 gun.
    Nr:6 is again a T34-85 turret
     
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    According to the caption they are located near a town named 'Yambol'

    Yambol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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