Snautzer01
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Payen PA-22 in German service Villacoublay-France 1942
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odd, that one.....good pics though...
Old Wizard
2nd Lieutenant
Nice stuff!
Has anyone seen this plane in French Civil colors?
Also, what is your opinion on the bottom color of the German marked one (above)? Helblau? Gelb?
Also, what is your opinion on the bottom color of the German marked one (above)? Helblau? Gelb?
According to author Alain Pelletier, it was painted all-blue when the Germans seized it.
That's what all the profiles show, but are there any pictures?
None that I could find Jim.
I'm assuming there was only a very short time between painting it, the wind-tunnel and then the Germans taking it?
Pa-112 above the Pa-22 (nearing completion)...
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Old Wizard
2nd Lieutenant
Makes sense Graeme...great picture by the way
Cool shot!
GregP
Major
Why are there red lines in all the otherwise great pictures?
My guess is to obliterate the swastika so it can be shown in Germany/Europe.
The others are probably company names who probably don't want to be associated with a Nazi aircraft.
GregP
Major
Ruins a good picture! And anyone can find pics of a swastika if they have internet access.
But, governments do silly things. I fully understand not wanting to perpetuate the Nazi party, but blotting out the swastika doesn't change history. And we know that those who don't know their history lessons will likely repeat them.
But, governments do silly things. I fully understand not wanting to perpetuate the Nazi party, but blotting out the swastika doesn't change history. And we know that those who don't know their history lessons will likely repeat them.
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My thoughts exactly. We've had to cover the swastika up for news organisations from Europe where it may be shown in Germany. Better to cover the symbol than to cover up the history though...
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