a lot of this had to do with "acceptable losses" and acts of "sheer desperation". this is where east vs west philosophies and winner vs loser all come into effect. the usaaf ceased daylight bombing after the LW shellacked them...inflicting "unacceptable losses". they would not put their troops into harms way with out some decent precentage of survival. that occured after bombers were able to be escorted deep into germany..and all that. i see no difference between acts of ramming ac (when you are already suffering from a lack of pilots)...or the soviets throwing throngs of troops into an area..sometimes even without a weapon. these are acts of "sheer desperation" and generally yield very little results unless you can throw mind boggling numbers at the enemy.. again, the soviets were successful with this...but in doing anything and everything to slow the advance of the german army, the average "Ivan" was fed into the meat grinders by the tens ( actually more like hundreds ) of thousands at a break neck pace. for the most part the troops western allies would have revolted...not surrendered... but surely not put up with it either. germany concocted other acts....arming old men and children and ordered to fight to the last bullet. i have no doubts that had the allies been forced to invade the japanese mainland...we would have seen simular or even more horrific acts been asked of a populace from that part of the world as well. at what point do you say "enough it enough" to your leaders who blow all the smoke...and is it bravery or foolishness? what a position to put your people into....