The Greatest Fighter Jet of All Time.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Apr 5, 2008

smg said:
i tin=nk the su 37 becouse its porformens in simulater games

You are going to use a video game to help you make your choice? I hope you are ready to take some FLAK!

Matt308 · Apr 5, 2008

Mine was too subtle...

Hey SMG, your post was indicative or either your age, your IQ, or your shoe size.

Was that better Adler?

evangilder · Apr 5, 2008

Hmmm, let me get with my programming buddies, we'll make the Cessna A-37 Dragonfly the best ever.

Come on, SMG, you can't base it on a flight sim. You have no way of knowing the accuracy of the sim. Plus flying a sim versus the real thing is incomparable. Until you have felt the heat, the Gs, the buffeting when getting out of the performance envelope, felt the stick forces and responses, you don't have anything to base your judgment on.

FLYBOYJ · Apr 5, 2008

smg said:
i tin=nk the su 37 becouse its porformens in simulater games

Do you believe in the Easter Bunny?

Matt308 · Apr 5, 2008

I am the Easter Bunny, Flyboy. So what's your point?

FLYBOYJ · Apr 5, 2008

Matt308 said:
I am the Easter Bunny, Flyboy. So what's your point?

That was my point!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Apr 6, 2008

Matt308 said:
Mine was too subtle...

Hey SMG, your post was indicative or either your age, your IQ, or your shoe size.

Was that better Adler?

Thank you...

Lucky13 · Apr 6, 2008

Someone needs to take their nap, before they get all grumpy...

Elvis · Apr 6, 2008

F4F WILDCAT!

...oh, it says best JET fighter... (sorry).

Oh man, this is tough. I don't even see a couple of planes I'd personally consider among the best, if nothing else.
FJ-4 and F-5/20.
Granted, neither made much impact during wartime (Did the FJ-4 even enter a battle?), but I think they would've made an excellent showing of themselves.
Small targets are hard to hit. Small FAST targets are dam near impossible to hit!

Man, I like the F-4, but I equally like the F's 8-18, too.
The 104 was the "super duper" plane of its day, but so was the 106 (which is also not on the list).
Then the Mirage, the Migs..it boggles the mind.

...so...

I'm just going to close my eyes and pick one.

....and the winner is...

...me....oops, sorry. Wrong award.

I'll take the F-22.

Its the most advanced and the vectored thrust should make it the most manuverable.
Its probably the most versatile, too, althogh I'm sure there's a ton of F-4 jockey's out there that would beg to differ.

So for no other reason than, "that's my choice", The F-22.

Elvis

Elvis · Apr 6, 2008

102first_hussars said:
I belive the Avro Arrow simply because Im Canadian,
It has no combat record , but it definately would have changed the world we live in today if it wasnt cancelled.

You know, there's talk out there that the Arrow was the basis for the F-111.
Of course, I think it was developed as a bomber.
I wonder how successful the F-111 would've been as a fighter.

...its kinda big for one, isn't it?

Elvis

bf109 Emil · Apr 14, 2008

A total miss use of military equipment...ps, can i book this for the next BBQ with the in-laws...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o11IlVxS744

cheers bf109 Emil

FLYBOYJ · Apr 14, 2008

Elvis said:
You know, there's talk out there that the Arrow was the basis for the F-111.

Talk? From who? Not even close!!!

Elvis said:
Of course, I think it was developed as a bomber.
I wonder how successful the F-111 would've been as a fighter.

The F-111 did have a very capable air-to-air capability and many F-111 squadrons also trained for air-to-air. I work with an O-6 who once told me he locked on several MiGs who been trailing him on a NATO exercise over the Norwegian Sea in the 1980s.

Elvis · Apr 15, 2008

Really. I've always heard of the 111 in terms of being a bomber (maybe bomber-type would be more accurate), like in the same class as an F-101 (although newer).
The "F" classification would give creedence to having some kind of air-to-air capability, but whenever I've asked servicemen in the past all I get is a smarmy "hmph!" accompanied by a $h!t eatin' grin and "right".

I forget where I heard that about the Arrow and the F-111. I must've read it or maybe saw it on TV, because I remember a picture showing the general outline of the two planes and how similar they were.

I don't know. If you say no, then fine, its not.

Elvis

pbfoot · Apr 15, 2008

Elvis said:
Really. I've always heard of the 111 in terms of being a bomber (maybe bomber-type would be more accurate), like in the same class as an F-101 (although newer).
The "F" classification would give creedence to having some kind of air-to-air capability, but whenever I've asked servicemen in the past all I get is a smarmy "hmph!" accompanied by a $h!t eatin' grin and "right".

I forget where I heard that about the Arrow and the F-111. I must've read it or maybe saw it on TV, because I remember a picture showing the general outline of the two planes and how similar they were.

I don't know. If you say no, then fine, its not.

Elvis

I saw the same thing but it wasn't the 111 it was the 14 I believe the they showed both aircraft from the from the front and the resemblence was uncanny

drgondog · Apr 15, 2008

Elvis said:
Really. I've always heard of the 111 in terms of being a bomber (maybe bomber-type would be more accurate), like in the same class as an F-101 (although newer).
The "F" classification would give creedence to having some kind of air-to-air capability, but whenever I've asked servicemen in the past all I get is a smarmy "hmph!" accompanied by a $h!t eatin' grin and "right".

I forget where I heard that about the Arrow and the F-111. I must've read it or maybe saw it on TV, because I remember a picture showing the general outline of the two planes and how similar they were.

I don't know. If you say no, then fine, its not.

Elvis

The F-111 was Mcnamara's Edsel for the USAF and USN - the first joint service 'must buy'. It was first operational swing wing 'tactical' aircraft designed for TAC in AF and to replace A6 and other tactical strike a/c for Navy. The USN played the game for awhile bbut carrier requirements took the weight way up and Navy bailed out.

In it's way it was a useful weapon, fast, terrain following, all weather fighter bomber - but the use of 'fighter' in same breath is not useful. Although its first deployment to SE asia was not a success, its ability to perform all weather strikes under radar was continuously improved and it was effective in both that role as well as Electronic Counter Measure a/c and replaced the F-105 and EB-66 and B-57 altogether.

Matt308 · Apr 15, 2008

pbfoot said:
I saw the same thing but it wasn't the 111 it was the 14 I believe the they showed both aircraft from the from the front and the resemblence was uncanny

Another reason to never trust television...

FLYBOYJ · Apr 15, 2008

My father in law flew the F-111, said it was one of the fastest aircraft he ever flown once it started building up speed....

smg · Apr 15, 2008

dident the f 14 replaisd the f 111 as an intersepter

FLYBOYJ · Apr 15, 2008

smg said:
dident the f 14 replaisd the f 111 as an intersepter

NO

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Apr 15, 2008

pbfoot said:
I saw the same thing but it wasn't the 111 it was the 14 I believe the they showed both aircraft from the from the front and the resemblence was uncanny

They dont look anything alike from the front, or from any angle as a matter of fact.

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