Thoughts on the Handley Page H.P.47?

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If its weird, its British.
If its ugly, its French.
If its wierd AND ugly, its Russian.

In the case of this British spec, none were exactly good-looking. But, if we're going to have small tail booms, I like this Soviet design that was never quite completed: Grokhovsky G-38.



It used French Gnome-Rhone radials, and COULD have been a neat airplane. Alas, the designer apparenly somehow ran afoul of Stalin or was just caught up in a purge and, as so many others who had done so did, he died in prison. So, no really neat twin-boom fighter. But I like the design. At least it is NOT both wierd and ugly simultaneously.

If looks could kill, this would have been a winner. I wonder where exactly they placed the tailwheel ....
 
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Neat looking airplane! Had it been built, would those engines have impaired forward vision?
 
Sometimes you swing and you miss, and I suspect just take government funding for something you know isn't going to get picked.
 
For all the criticism of these designs, they were built to meet a Government requirement. Let's bear in mind that the Wellesley set a world distance record flying 7,162 miles non-stop from Ismailia to Darwin. Yes, the aircraft were modified from the service standard but that distance record for a single-engined aircraft lasted for over 68 years! The ability to fly that sort of range didn't come by accident; it must have been driven in large part by the original specification. One look at the Wellesley's aspect ratio suggests the design traded speed and manoeuverability for lift, presumably to meet the specification.
 

I read somewhere that the ASI was a calendar.
 
That thing is hard to look at. I always thought that the Wellesley was hard to look at, but that thing is even worse. In comparison, the Vickers looks pretty good. I presume they were supposed to be "light bombers", whatever that is/was. I'd hate to have to fly something like that knowing someone in a (name your poison here) was going to try to shoot me down.
 
The Wellesley was a "medium bomber," at least by early 1930s specs, and was obsolete by WWII. Nevertheless, it was operated in remote regions where the backwater crop of obsolete airplanes was generally used, ended up flying maritime patrol, and retired from that endeavor in 1942. It would not have been so bad to operate one in a backwater threater because the opposition was something like a biplane with about the same speed or maybe a P-26 Peashooter. Either way, the single flex MG and single fixed MG was enough to deter most 1920s - 1930s pursuits, and you really weren't going to encounter them to any great degree anyway seeing as how there wasn't any radar about. All you had were ground spotters who were not exactly the same as early warning radar.

I doubt anybody wanted to be a Wellesley if a Bf 109 or even a Fiat CR.42 somehow wandered along and found them.
 
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Just turn the wing around and make it a tricycle geared beast. Pretty cool looking regardless. Definitely out of the box thinking.

Cheers,
Biff
 
The militarized DC-2 was better know as the Douglas B-18 Bolo. Not exactly a roaring success.
 

I am wondering where the pilots feet go. What with the guns and the wing spars the pilot must have been prone. Unless the wing was very thick.
 
It looks a bit of a lash up, but how much time and effort would you spend on a plane in the early 1930s where the client doesn't know what it wants, or rather it wants everything.
 

The Wellesley had the Geodesic structure also used in latter Wellington. It was very light. 2.5 times the wing area of a spitfire but only 30% more weight. I assume it was designed by Barnes Wallis.

The observers/gunner/navigator windshield folded down flat so the aerodynamics was pretty good.
 
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