USN carrier hangar deck stowage

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    In researching F4Fs and SBDs I have seen photos where it appears SBDs were lifted and suspended from the ceiling of large carrier hangar decks and I have seen a Wildcat or two with its wings off down there too.
    Now, photos taken in the hangar decks seem to be rare and of course they were crowded most of the time but did they partially dismantle some planes to stash them below?
     
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    I found this image but know I saw some others. I can't imagine they hung later types form the ceiling! IMG_0014.jpg
     
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    #4 Skip M, Dec 11, 2013
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    When the Ranger, Yorktown, and Wasp were design the navy wanted to be able to store 2 months of replacement planes on board. They had figured that 25% of the air group's planes would have to be replaced each month. The Essex was designed with a 25% spare ratio of stored planes. This was to allow for that deck above the hanger and below the flight deck. When they started having CVE's as replenishment carriers with the fleet oilers the stored planes became even less of an issue. The navy had planned in the 1930's to keep the fleet at sea for long periods.
     
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    Great pictures!
     
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    IJN CVs stored partially assembled replacement aircraft too.

    Did RN CVs carry replacement aircraft?
     
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    Yes they did. Wings were separated and the parts stored. I think I am right in saying this was most common when Sea Hurricanes were in service as the wings didn't fold and they had to keep spares available without taking up room. Later the RN developed the specialist aircraft maintenance carrier the first being HMS Unicorn so I don't entirely know what happened in the second half of the war.

    If anyone knows any more I would value their input.
     
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    #8 RCAFson, Dec 11, 2013
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    British Warships of the Second World War, p62-63 shows the upper hangar of HMS Indefatigable with spare Barracuda and Seafire fuselages (with tail planes) being stowed between the flight deck support beams. IIRC, this was standard practice in WW2 RN carriers.
     
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    Interesting stuff guys.
     
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    Thanks for this
     
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    #11 parsifal, Dec 12, 2013
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    Here is a link of various carrier Hangar Decks and nationalities, including the French Carrier Bearn

    WW2 hanger images? in Aircraft Carriers Forum

    These shots are taken in 1949, of the hangar deck of HMAS Sydney ''

    Oct. 1949: Fireflies in the hangar deck - Gordon Evans. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

    1949:SNAPSHOT. Another scene from B Hangar of HMAS SYDNEY [III] - Gordon Evans. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


    This shot is the hangar Deck of HMAS Melbourne taken in 1978

    May 1978: In a hangar deck of HMAS MELBOURNE [II] - Photo Michael Melliar-Phelps. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


    This gives some idea of the hangar heights and dimensions for the new LPH assault ships

    Asian Carriers By the Numbers | USNI News
    A shot of the george Washington

    This Is the Hangar Bay of a US Navy Aircraft Supercarrier
     
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    Thanks for the pics. But:

    That is not a carrier, neither there are combat ready B-25s.
     
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    Great shot anyhow showing primer before painting.

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    #15 Shortround6, Dec 13, 2013
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    HMS Ark Royal (1943) and her double hangar. Gannets, Whirlwinds and Scimitars upper deck, Buccaneers lower deck.

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