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Brunner said:Hey Bronson, this video from pacific is just great. Wish I had pop corn now
What about some USAAF guncam footages?
Brunner, about half those .AVI's are really .WMV's.
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Brunner, about half those .AVI's are really .WMV's.
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Brunner said:oops, some mistake? They're working fine on my comp as .avi's
I get a warning that the suffix type is wrong, and it askes me if I want to play them anyway - I hit yes and they play fine. I messed with those that gave me the warning, and found that by renaming them as .wmv's the warning goes away.
No biggy, just thought I'd let you know.
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Spitfire attacking He-111, no much damage can be seen.
the lancaster kicks ass
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very nice........
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CharlesBronson said:
You don't see white smoke billowing from the left engine at the end of the film?
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Hard to tell. That could be trace from the cannon shells.
Good little piece of footage though.
Good little piece of footage though.
CharlesBronson
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Yes, it mixed a little with the very very smoky tracer.
This particular .303 day tracer, remind me the Ph leutchspur used by the MG-15 in the german bombers.
This particular .303 day tracer, remind me the Ph leutchspur used by the MG-15 in the german bombers.
CharlesBronson
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Bf-109 hit.
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Notice how much futher away it was worth firing the .50's from (as compared to German 20mm/13mm/7.9mm or GB .303's or even 20mm)? Also, notice how short a contact time was required to flame the 109?
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Well that is because the cluster of bullets struck in the right point, wich is below the cockpit hitting the fuel tank.
But not always was the case, for example Gunter Rall`s G-6 took more than 100 hit, without taking fire, off course he was shoot down, but at list he can tell about it.
I see guncameras with Bf-109 are hit but no flames can be seen. I guess that jap aircraft are a lot more easy to torch than germans.
To make my point a color guncamera of P-51 blasting Bf-109G-6 at short distance, as I say before no flames.
But not always was the case, for example Gunter Rall`s G-6 took more than 100 hit, without taking fire, off course he was shoot down, but at list he can tell about it.
I see guncameras with Bf-109 are hit but no flames can be seen. I guess that jap aircraft are a lot more easy to torch than germans.
To make my point a color guncamera of P-51 blasting Bf-109G-6 at short distance, as I say before no flames.
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Gunther Rall's plane took 7.7 mm hits, not .50 hits. 100 .50 hits would kill a 109 even if no "vital" parts were hit.
The first plane is finished after two short contacts. It does not burst into flames, but it's done. The film is edited, there is a second plane, or earlier clip spliced in at the very end.
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The first plane is finished after two short contacts. It does not burst into flames, but it's done. The film is edited, there is a second plane, or earlier clip spliced in at the very end.
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Early in the in the morning on May 12, 1944, Major Gunther Rall was awakened by the Division Commander.
A large formation of
American bombers and fighters was headed towards Germany to bomb six oil refineries in the area. Rall had just taken command of II/ JG11 barely a month earlier, when he left III/JG52 on the Eastern front.
Based at Husted airfield, located near the town of Celle, just north east of Hanover, II /JG11's primary task was to engage the American fighter escorts so that the more heavily armed Fw-190's could attack the bombers.
When the signal to scramble came, Rall led 25 Bf-109s from Husted and headed south west towards a formation of eight hundred B-17 and B-24 bombers, plus twelve hundred escorting fighters. Descending from 35,000 feet to 26,000 feet, Rall's group ran straight into a formation of P-47 Thunderbolts from the 56th Fighter Group.
Major Rall quickly shot down two of the P-47's but lost his wingman in the process, the latter having an
engine failure.
After executing a split-S maneuver, Rall found himself boxed in by four P-47s from "Zemke's Wolfpack". He tried desperately to out-maneuver his opponents at treetop level, but his left thumb was shot off and his Messerschmitt was heavily damaged. With his aircraft on the verge of structural failure, Rall "bailed out" at low altitude and was rescued by farmers. When the bombing attack was over, the farmers arranged for an ambulance to take Major Rall to the hospital.
Günther Rall eventually recuperated and ended the war as Wing Commander of JG 300. His final victory tally was 275 confirmed aerial victories- the third highest in history.
A large formation of
American bombers and fighters was headed towards Germany to bomb six oil refineries in the area. Rall had just taken command of II/ JG11 barely a month earlier, when he left III/JG52 on the Eastern front.
Based at Husted airfield, located near the town of Celle, just north east of Hanover, II /JG11's primary task was to engage the American fighter escorts so that the more heavily armed Fw-190's could attack the bombers.
When the signal to scramble came, Rall led 25 Bf-109s from Husted and headed south west towards a formation of eight hundred B-17 and B-24 bombers, plus twelve hundred escorting fighters. Descending from 35,000 feet to 26,000 feet, Rall's group ran straight into a formation of P-47 Thunderbolts from the 56th Fighter Group.
Major Rall quickly shot down two of the P-47's but lost his wingman in the process, the latter having an
engine failure.
After executing a split-S maneuver, Rall found himself boxed in by four P-47s from "Zemke's Wolfpack". He tried desperately to out-maneuver his opponents at treetop level, but his left thumb was shot off and his Messerschmitt was heavily damaged. With his aircraft on the verge of structural failure, Rall "bailed out" at low altitude and was rescued by farmers. When the bombing attack was over, the farmers arranged for an ambulance to take Major Rall to the hospital.
Günther Rall eventually recuperated and ended the war as Wing Commander of JG 300. His final victory tally was 275 confirmed aerial victories- the third highest in history.
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Where does it say anything about 100 .50 hits?
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In the Rall s Memoirs, believe it or not that is the question.
Was also shot down in russia by a I-16, wich I think those are the 7,7mm bullets you talking about.
Was also shot down in russia by a I-16, wich I think those are the 7,7mm bullets you talking about.
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Allied Aircraft guncam attacking train and pulling up at extreme low altitude.
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CharlesBronson said:In the Rall s Memoirs, believe it or not that is the question.
Was also shot down in russia by a I-16, wich I think those are the 7,7mm bullets you talking about.
In Rall's memiors does it specifically say over 100 .50 hits?
I-16's also mounted two ShVAK 20mm's.
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I guess that some spanish translator want to ad something to this history.
CharlesBronson
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Strafing ships with the 50 caliber, not sure but I think they are Japanese.
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