What If?......

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Theirs was a flawed political system - After a meglamanic like Stalin [ whose crimes made Hitler look like a hairy-assed schoolboy, by comparison] Kruschev led the flawed system into it's gradual disintegration - Whenever a country's people are subjected to what Russia's folk were, it's inevitable -[ You'd think Iraq's people would be happy to be rid of Sadaam, but the ungrateful sods are Arabs, who seem happy fighting each other; Then someone offers a hand, they turn on them...I'd never trust an Arab] - But I hold optimistic hope for Russia, Putin's a strong leader, much needed now to keep capitalist-corruption in check...
 
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Mate, "Wog" sounds so much better-and funnier-than arab! It's a British word too, made when the Brits were still in what was then Palestine after the war and guarding the beaches and such from the Jews. fucking bastards those (THOSE!!!) Brits for the most part in my opinion, all the Jews had ever wanted was a place to call home, and that's why I have nothing against Jews and sympathize with them-yes, I am a breed of Nazi (i have "Lightning Bolts-SS Logo, but not the Totenkopf, the SS itself, the letters) myself but I dont hate anyone really... I just admire the dedication to a cause (although it was wrong) and the German work ethic and equipment (lets not forget those awesome uniforms :D ) Maybe Hitler I hate, but I don't know if I can hate the 2nd most influential person in history after Jesus in my opinion but I kinda do as do most, but at least I understand more and arent as ignorant as most know-nothings who judge him by the Holocaust alone!
 
There is a problem here. The Luftwaffe, the RAF, and the Mighty 8th all learned that unescorted bomber missions were the next thing to suicide. What did the Germans have to escort their new-found bomber? The Bf-109 and FW-190 were hard pressed to reach London and none of the Luftwaffe Zerestors could successful tangle with a Spit, Mustang, Lightning, or whatever other Allied fighter you wanna mention. Of course if the Germans had a heavy bomber, maybe we could have seen the P-38 do what it was designed to do . . . there's a what-if for ya
 
Germans, 'wog' is a term for Negros, Raghead, or Stani is used for Arabs.
I agree with Gemhorse though, they are just tribal and they love war. You can't help them, Russia on the other hand could be helped but America doesn't want to because that'll give it a chance of being a superpower again.

Lightning, in the Battle of Britain 109s were getting over London if only for 15 minutes, over Southern England they could loiter longer. With heavy bombers doing the bombing instead of their Ju88, He111 and such they would have crippled the RAF, and flattened London.

The most successful raid was by Ju88s, and it destroyed 46 RAF planes. If this was done by larger aircraft with more payload it would have been even more devestating.
 
Yeah, I kinda like the way the Jews got their land back...5 million Jews pushing 700 million Arabs back, in the 1960's etc. They worked hard and turned their desert into Oasis;- If you'd just about been wiped-out by genocide, and fought for your old homeland back, you're not gonna let a riff-raff band of Arab countries run you into the sea....there's something about being God's chosen people....But, as the Allies before them in WWII, they had a Job to Do, and if bombing un-escorted at night because daylight was too costly, Britain's nightfighters worked and cleared the German raiders as they sent Bomber Command into Germany in ever-increasing numbers... ' the best form of defence is attack...'
 
I know that the Bf-109s could make London, but just barely. Their range would have been insufficeint to handle a running-battle to, over, and from the target. Furthermore, they would have been of absolutely NO use trying to escort German bombers over the Urals to bomb Soviet targets.

Of course, to be honest, the matter of bombing London is largely irrelevant. Bombing populations centers wasn't going to break the Brits, nor did it break the Germans. If, however, Germany had continue to focus on the RAF fields and factories their He-111s and Ju-88s would have gotten the job done. It was a misuse of bombers, rather than lack of heavy bombes, that doomed to Luftwaffe to failure in the Battle of Britain.
 
Yeah, RADAR was huge. The Germans, in my opinion, shouldn't have given up their raids on the Home Chain stations as quickly as they did.
 
There WAS also the fact that Dr. R.V Jones and collegues developed technology quite early, to 'bend' the 'Knicklebein' radar beams the Germans used as their primary bomb-aiming aid, so that on their large night raids they were bombing paddocks, and post-operation reconnaissance by Ju87P's showed that the desired destruction wasn't happening - they then went on to fast-night 'nuisance' bombing, using Ju88's, Do217's and Fw190's, coming in low, dropping on secondary towns, then diving back over the channel.- This contributed to our developing Nightfighter Force becoming very adept at catching them, then evolving to offensive operations into Europe - German Nightfighters were almost exclusively Defensive....
 
There WAS also the fact that Dr. R.V Jones and collegues developed technology quite early, to 'bend' the 'Knicklebein' radar beams the Germans used as their primary bomb-aiming aid
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that was a double-edged sword, on one hand, it made the germans miss their target, but it also started the Blitz when a off-corse heinkel dropped it's bombs on london, which was forbidden at the time...............
 
Of course bombing London ultimately did more harm to Germany (since it kept Fighter Command in the war) that it did to the Brits.
 
but then again, we thought a night bombing or berlin would break german morale, but it didn't.......................
 
Yeah, it's interesting that the only nation that capitulated to the bombing of civilan centers was Japan and they were more fanatical than anyone. Of course I think that has more to do with Hirohito being sensable that the populous caving in.
 
it's funny that the germans thought bombing us would break our morale, but it didn't, then we were stupid enough to think that exactily the same thing could break the germans...................
 
I think that has alot to do with the pre-war idea that bombers would completely obliterate cities it a singly strike. Of course, that just about happened with several cities and no one broke down. Maybe the people of 60 years ago were alot tougher mentally than the average person today.
 
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