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Thumpalumpacus
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A google image-search gave this, from Wiki, so take it for what it's worth:
The Naval Aircraft Factory TDN was an early unmanned combat aerial vehicle - referred to at the time as an "assault drone" - developed by the United States Navy's Naval Aircraft Factory during the Second World War. Developed and tested during 1942 and 1943, the design proved moderately successful, but development of improved drones saw the TDN-1 relegated to second-line duties, and none were used in operational service.
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The Naval Aircraft Factory TDN was an early unmanned combat aerial vehicle - referred to at the time as an "assault drone" - developed by the United States Navy's Naval Aircraft Factory during the Second World War. Developed and tested during 1942 and 1943, the design proved moderately successful, but development of improved drones saw the TDN-1 relegated to second-line duties, and none were used in operational service.
Naval Aircraft Factory TDN - Wikipedia
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
At first, I thought it was the Interstate TDR, but the gear and nose are a bit different.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Independence class?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
I beleive that's the USS Sable, which had two large funnels.
The USS Wolverine had four small funnels.
The USS Wolverine had four small funnels.
Yep .. I agree. It is the USS Sable during the TDN-1 trials ...
www.history.navy.mil
And the USS Wolverine (IX-64) ... the four small funnels can be noticed ...
the pic souce: Search
80-G-387161 USS Sable
(IX-81) TDN-1 drones parked on the flight deck, off Traverse City, Michigan, during flight tests on 10 August 1943. Note the inscriptions and cartoons on the aircraft noses, including Fatstuff and Coop's and Roy on the nearer TDN, and Dilbert on the more distant one. Official U.S. Navy...
And the USS Wolverine (IX-64) ... the four small funnels can be noticed ...
the pic souce: Search
2020 thesis about these ships and their operations including the drones
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
Still smokes less than the Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov!
Elvis
Chief Master Sergeant
Query...
Quick overview of Wiki article on Independence Class carriers.....would these be considered "Jeep Carriers"?
Quick overview of Wiki article on Independence Class carriers.....would these be considered "Jeep Carriers"?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The Independence class were "Light Carriers" and were slightly larger than Escort Carriers (which were often called "Jeep Carriers").
Thumpalumpacus
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... and it doesn't use a tug for an escort.
Elvis
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Thumpalumpacus
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Independence was "light", hence CVL. Escort carriers (CVEs) were nicknamed "Jeeps".
CVLs were built on converted Cleveland-class light cruiser hulls, whereas CVEs were converted from or built upon merchant designs. CVLs could steam at fleet speeds of around 30 kts and carried around 36 aircraft. CVEs could manage 18 kts or so depending on design and sea-state, and carried fewer planes. CVLs were used with the 3rd/5th Fleet offensive carrier groups, while CVEs were used mainly for assault support, ferrying replacement aircraft, and in the Atlantic, flagshipping hunter-killer groups against U-boats.
Two distinct types, with equally-distinct designs and mission profiles.
Elvis
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Thanks Thump
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Admiral Beez
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It's interesting that both India and China seem to keep their Russian made carriers running to some level. After serious rework, mind you.
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GrauGeist
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The Indian Navy completely rebuilt and modernized their old Soviet carrier, so it's pretty much a modern ship.
