That's OK, not everyone realises the effect of "darts theory" on fighter construction. In practice when the enemy was 7ft 91/4in from the gun a 100% hit rate was noted.I stand corrected from my previous post.
Why did the P-47's gun barrels protrude so far?
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Gosh, I was gonna say: "Because it's excited?"
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
The P-38's guns protruded half way - does that mean it was an air superiority fighter and fighter bomber??? Did the cannon matter???
I was thinking of posting the same thing, but decided it was more fun to see how this convo progressed as is.
BS - P47 was designed as a air superriority fighter -fighter-bomber missions was never part of original AAC specification - which called for fighter outperforming possible enemies on high altitudies. It was excellent fighter bomber by accident - never really intended as it's primary role.
Good grief, everybody knows why once they quit joking.
Where the guns are positioned is determined by structure, smart designers make the path from the ammo cans to the gun breech as straight as possible to lessen ammo feed problems.
Lot's of aircraft with closely placed guns stagger, or offset their position, and some barrels end up stick out into the airsteam, the F4F, the Corsair when it had 20mm, the Lightning's 50's, even the Bf 109 cowl guns are offset.
If you've got several guns close together and you offset each gun, some are going to stick out.
Where the guns are positioned is determined by structure, smart designers make the path from the ammo cans to the gun breech as straight as possible to lessen ammo feed problems.
Lot's of aircraft with closely placed guns stagger, or offset their position, and some barrels end up stick out into the airsteam, the F4F, the Corsair when it had 20mm, the Lightning's 50's, even the Bf 109 cowl guns are offset.
If you've got several guns close together and you offset each gun, some are going to stick out.
fubar57
General
Those that "know" him know he won't be back to respond. He just posts from his whatever pops into his head to help us poor aviation neophytes out and then vanishes into the archives to resurrect another long dead thread....a Savior if you will......
Insightful, wish we could have had this information 15 years ago...
The P-40 and P-51's .50 calibers had the same length gun barrels as the P-47, and every other BMG M2 .50 cal. armed aircraft out there in that era.
It's just that in some the barrels are more buried in the structure.
I am so getting a chuckle out of his post. I guess when I am shooting my AR or my K98s I can identify as a fighter-bomber because they have longer barrels. Then when I am shooting my handguns I can identify myself as an air superiority fighter. It is 2020 after all...
I just worry about the thought process.I am so getting a chuckle out of his post. I guess when I am shooting my AR or my K98s I can identify as a fighter-bomber because they have longer barrels. Then when I am shooting my handguns I can identify myself as an air superiority fighter. It is 2020 after all...
In this case I do as well.
Normally I would say lets take this young lad under our wing, and teach him. But since he never responds, how do we do that?
fubar57
General
Agreed but he seems to be trying to turn this into another Wiki with most of his wild posts. Is there a way to let him log in and not post? Have a message waiting explaining the situation
I will contact him.
fubar57
General
God speed
wuzak
Captain
Does it mean the ones that did protrude were just more excited?
Well that would be an issue of "orientation" I don't really know whether these guys were actually fighter bombers or air superiority fighters by birth but as long as they were consenting adults I suppose its OK.
In 1914 i can agree with that but does that make those that just dropped housebricks over the side heavy bombers ?I am so getting a chuckle out of his post. I guess when I am shooting my AR or my K98s I can identify as a fighter-bomber because they have longer barrels. Then when I am shooting my handguns I can identify myself as an air superiority fighter. It is 2020 after all...
