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Theoretical and unprovable - it's also possible that had the Germans had air services operating through the '20s the development of their aero engines and other technologies would have gone in a completely different direction. In fact, more than likely, they would have been as war weary and bankrupt as the other major powers, so that their air services would have been just as poorly funded and forced to use left-over WW1 technology for years afterwards.
You expect wrong and you don't listen or read. The German air force did NOT start from scratch in 1935.
That is a misconception you have being either believing or trying to foist off for quite a period of time.
The Luftwaffe had hundreds of aircraft IN SERVICE in 1934. They started design and construction of aircraft in 1932-33 if not before. The Dornier F first flew May 7th 1932, it was renamed the Dornier 11 in 1933 and the first production examples were completed in late 1933. In Oct 1933 they established an auxiliary bomber group. By March 1st 1934 the auxiliary bomber group had only 3 Do 11s due to late delivery of engines to Dornier but had 24 Ju 52/3e bombers.
The Arado 65a prototype fighter first flew in 1931, the Arado 65d first flew in 1932 and production models (65e) were being delivered in 1933.
Heinkel had a number of designs in production before 1934. I have listed them before but you chose to keep repeating the claim that the Germans didn't even start to re-arm until 1935. A very easily refuted form of revisionism.
All we ask is that you all remain civil.
Is that too much to ask?
And again the others were not banned because they were "pro German", they were banned because of being told over and over agsin to act civil.
A discussion can be "aggressive" as you call it, without insulting or belittling others. You are not the only one. There are several others. Some are "pro allies".
Some purposly try and bait you "pro German" guys to draw you into a fight in order to get you banned. That also is not tolerated.
Anyway I have understood your message and I will do my best to take it seriously at the future, but I can't guarantee it, if my spirit will go through with me, but I hope I have explained from which "side" I come.
I have no problem with discussion.
I have a problem with the name-calling, the hurtful sarcasm and the constant "pro-Allied" stance that this forum is constantly being accused of.
Its one thing to forcefully discuss the topic but altogether another issue when some just don't like the tone of some members (which in my opinion is the majority of the attacks on Parsifal. Unlike everyone else who attacks him, he will change his opinion if you bring facts to the table which RARELY happens!) I'm just tired of reading a good thread only to have it blown up because this "one is an idiot" or that "one has no clue".
And just so we are clear: I like the Luftwaffe (I'm sure Adler does also). I have numerous books about the Luftwaffe and models of the planes. Ask Marcel, he has been to my home. I am not anti-German. There is no bias here. People are banned because of the way they act and not because of some conspiracy to weed the membership of pro-Germans. Its ridiculous and anybody who believes that obviously has a poor research technique or they would have found the reasons for those who were banned.
and I'm getting tired of having to explain this over and over.
Sometimes I have the feeling you (all moderators) have a very long rein, and sometimes especially in this thread the reins are very very short, because the dicussion hasn't realy developed. That's somtimes very irritating.
BTW I have had A BMW motorcycle, A German Ford Capri, several older German cameras and a number of German rifles and pistols. While I would take the BMW over a Triumph Bonneville as a day to day machine the BMW cracked it's frame 3 times in exactly the same spot due to vibration in under 24,000 miles and couple of the rifles have a flaw or two that casts doubt on "German engineering". Over all they were very good but they were not infallible.
Because if we don't have "short reins", then this thread will become like all the other threads...
You: You are clueless!
Them: You are a revisionist!
You: You don't know what you are talking about!
Them: More Ueber German BS!
You: You are just an Anti German!
And in the end no one has learned anything, just a thread of bickering BS...
That is the course of so many threads.
I am finished discussing this. Get this thread back on topic, do it civil, or the thread is closed!