Wich was the worst nation in the war?

Wich was the worst nation in the war?

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Pretty much all of the allied countries were organised and ready for the invasion of Japan.

Canada would have actually been fighting as its own country on Japanese soil, not as a British Colony or Dominion whatever.
(For most of the war canada had been fighting un Monte.)
 
102first_hussars said:
Canada would have actually been fighting as its own country on Japanese soil, not as a British Colony or Dominion whatever.
(For most of the war canada had been fighting un Monte.)
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Huh?

We've been a country since 1 July, 1867. But even long after we ceased to be a "colony", we remained a loyal dominion of the British Empire. We didn't even have our own army until 1871, our own navy until 1910, or our own air force until 1920. Until 1910, we were still defended entirely by the Royal Navy, who had ships permanently based at Halifax. Technically speaking, we're still loyal to the British monarch to this day.

As for fighting Japan as our "own country" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean, even during the Korean War Canadian troops fought as a part of a larger Commonwealth force. During WWII we fought attached to the British army groups for the most part. It wasn't until very late in the ETO, and well after D-Day, that the 1st Canadian Army was stood-up as a complete Canadian command.
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
The British, Aussies and Canadians would have demanded to contribute.
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I could just imagine Churchill pounding his fist on the table telling Truman to let him play, and Truman just smirking about it, hehehehehe
 
I'm sure you can. And I can imagine Churchill bitch slapping that little pussy Truman around the room until he cries and let's the Commonwealth join in. Or ...we could just let the U.S invade Japan on their own. That's a few million less Americans and Japanese to be bothered about. Ha-ha-ha!
 
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Okay we arent colony persay but every decision we made depended on the brits consent,
yes after ww1 we had controll of our military and had our own name in the LON, but our foriegn policy was still controlled by the Governer General, And as for the Japanese, Canada would be moving in on its objectives as decided by the Allied Command not by Monte.
 
Although the Governor General continued to officially relay the wishes of the British Crown to Parliament, Canada has been independent in every practical sense since about the early 1920's. We didn't participate in WWII, or even WWI really for that matter, because we had no choice. We chose to fight. As I said though, we were a loyal part of the British Empire and a Commonwealth country along with Australia and New Zealand, so there was no way in hell we were going to take up a sideline. The people wouldn't have allowed it. MacKenzie King was a fierce advocate of Canadians deciding for Canadians, so there was no way he was going to just "roll over" because Churchill barked. In fact, he took his stubborn views a bit too far at times.

Canadian troops fell under overall British command because: A) We were a Commonwealth country coming to the aid of Great Britain, and part of the Empire, and B) We only had a permanent army of about 5000 men in 1939, so what else would we have done?
 
Plus the Canadians were trained in British tactics, and used british wepaons.

It was far easier for Canada to be part of the British army than to change everything to be part of the American army.

For the ANZAC frces, I think they should have been integrated fully into the American PTO forces.
 
We actually used a lot of American techniques and equipment too; particularly the airborne troops. It wasn't a big change, because we were building as we went. In fact, in the areas where Canadians worked closely with Americans, even some of the uniform items were American. In the Aleutians for example. Then there was the First Special Service Force.
 
It's Monty, not Monte! Bloody hell, imagine an Army Group commanded by an Italian mountain.
 
Even so, we had airborne forces in the ETO. They were attached to the British Airborne, and wore the British style uniform, but a lot of the initial training techniques had come from Fort Benning, Georgia.
 
Despite the fact Lancasters were getting geared up for the long-range missions that would be required of them when operating in the Pacific? And you think the U.S government, let alone the people, would allow the United States to carry the burden of the invasion and take all the casualties as a result?

This is the same U.S that complained that Britain wasn't taking enough of the casualties in Europe.
 
The invasion of Japan, operations Olympic and Coronet were going to be a 100% American affair. MacArthur, Nimitz, Marshall, King and Truman had already decided that. If they did not incorporate the commonwealth into the plans, then what are you going to do?

And the bringing over of air assetts to the PTO would do you no good. All bomber strips within range of Japan were already occupied by B24's and B29's of the FEAF and 20th AF.

One little political aspect of the war of that time, is some US leaders saw the Brits reentry into the PTO as a reassertion of the empire. Dont underestimate the politics of that in the summer of 1945.
 
NOT TRUE! There were other than American elements for Olympic.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/war.term/olympic.html

This was from an article in the Marine Corps Gazette in 1965.
 
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